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all right people I'm gonna make this

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quick but for the next six weeks or so

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starting February 1st I'm putting all my

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show outlines up for auction I've

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mentioned before that I have a very

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strict routine for preparing for and

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recording THC episodes and part of that

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process 95 of the time going back many

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years has been waking up early on the

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days I record and compiling my notes

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into a roughly four to six page outline

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that I print out and conduct the

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interviews from as a template I write in

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the margins I cross stuff out as we go

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along I jot things down I don't want to

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forget and I usually have a good deal of

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material in these outlines that never

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even makes it to air when a show is done

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I put a little staple up in the corner

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and throw them in a filing cabinet well

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it's no secret I'm trying to move and

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what better time to try to collect a

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little extra cash and offload a box of

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stuff I've been storing but I don't need

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so I'm signing listing and auctioning

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off all the outlines I have to any

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listeners who might be interested in

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that kind of thing each one is totally

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unique with its own markings coffee

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stains beer spills printing

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imperfections typos and maybe even

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Doodles in some cases that we're never

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really supposed to be seen by anyone

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else but I guess that's no big deal I

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know I've personally bought signed

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scripts before and some of my most

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prized possessions are banned set lists

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I nabbed at the end of concerts so maybe

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this is something like that for podcasts

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if you're into it they will be listed at

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ebay.com yeah I know ebay.com

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USR slash Higher Side chats the link is

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at the top of the show notes as well but

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it's ebay.com

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USR slash Higher Side chats and of

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course I'll post the links across all

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the social media dystopias I have an

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unfortunate presence in again the first

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batch of outlines will go up February

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1st and be listed for 10 days and I'm

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gonna continue to put up new batches as

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time permits when and where I can and I

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hope to have the whole thing completed

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in about six to eight weeks or so I

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guess I'm just out when I'm out but if

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there's a specific one you might want

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keep dipping in to see what's been added

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there's a good chance I haven't gotten

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it listed yet and a real chance I don't

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even have it for one reason or another

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but I do have most so just keep an eye

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out thanks in advance to anyone who

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picks up a little piece of THC history

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and contributes to the carlwood family

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moving fund alright and that said in

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more ways than one let's get this show

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on the road enjoy

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foreign

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until we've thoroughly tested every last

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closed-chested view find the more you

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think you know the less you really do

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we know the lion too is just

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to what degree

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where would we be without THC

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wooden company

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Serenity Now Higher Side Chatters from

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Sunny San Diego I'm Greg carlwood and it

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seems as if we're in a world of smoke

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and mirrors a seven-layer cake of lies

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and enduring a never-ending string of

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psyops where before we can even get to

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the truth of one thing we're hammered

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over the head with three more a

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suspicious string of train derailments

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and a toxic cloud hovering over some of

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America's most important Farmland

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Chinese spy balloon drama unknown

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objects shot down over Canada Alaska and

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Michigan at a minimum Tic Tac crafts

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over Pennsylvania being covered on

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mainstream news Senator John Kennedy

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telling the American people to lock

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their doors tonight after a backstage

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UFO briefing economic upheaval Financial

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shakiness and geopolitical tensions

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being intentionally pushed to a Breaking

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it's hard to know what's true or even

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stay focused on a single thread in this

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dense and snug conspiratorial cardigan

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but right in the middle of all the

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Capstone cabal's Controlled Chaos has

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landed an opportunity I've been waiting

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for since I was 16. and that is talking

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to the legendary Richard C Hoagland

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Richard has always been a coast to coast

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Mainstay and a major influence on me in

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the days of the much smaller world of

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pre-internet conspiratorial talk radio

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he is a former space science museum

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curator a former NASA consultant and

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during the Apollo missions he was the

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Scientific Advisor to Walter Cronkite

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and CBS News Richard is also the founder

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and principal investigator of the

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Enterprise mission where for over 20

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years he has been leading a scientific

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team in an independent analysis of

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possible intelligently designed

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artifacts on Mars as well as

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sophisticated glass structures on the

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moon he popularized the face on Mars

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continues to host the other side of

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midnight and co-authored a bona fide

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conspiracy class with dark Mission the

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secret history of NASA I'm certainly

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psyched for this one so let's do the

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damn thing NASA's esoteric undercurrent

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exposure space conspiracy staple and

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captain of the Enterprise Mission

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Richard C Hoagland welcome to the higher

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side oh well thank you Greg that was

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wonderful included you I'll talk to you

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next time

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good grief hey it's great to be with you

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absolutely yes it's an honor Richard and

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the timing couldn't have been better

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I've actually been out of town for an

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event and it just so happened to be one

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of the craziest weeks ever and who

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better to talk to when across all the

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major mainstream news networks we're

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hearing about a strange string of

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objects being shot down it's certainly

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no small thing for military jets to be

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shooting things down in American

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airspace it's also not normal for them

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to shoot things down that they don't

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have a lot of intel on and I'm not sure

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if this is just a psyop news story to

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distract us from other things or if

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these are truly controlled crafts being

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shot down over the last few days but the

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pendulum of the Public's attention has

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certainly been swinging into your

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territory lately so I gotta Kick this

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off by asking what the hell is going on

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out there Richard

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well I've been looking at this for a

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very long time as you know

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and many decades ago I kind of eschewed

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the whole idea of UFOs because I found

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way back in my museum days in the

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1960s that it was the morass of

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disinformation

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misinformation distraction outright lies

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cover-ups it was impossible to kind of

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get to any semblance of Truth which is

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why you know many years later I kind of

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inadvertently backed into the whole idea

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of extraterrestrial archeology

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which of course is the face on Mars

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what's the Sedonia what's on the moon

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what's in the rest of the solar system

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because ruins and artifacts stand still

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and someday when we're out there with

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enough manpower and woman power to

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actually land and find the libraries

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we're going to uncover an extraordinary

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ancient tapestry of who we are and were

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in the solar system and that data cannot

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really be spun by the psyops folks in

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the Deep State and all the people who've

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been trying so you know assiduously to

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keep us in the dark you know kind of

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like mushrooms you know what they feed

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them for decade after decade after

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decade so in that context

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given that we have this extraordinary

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amazing breakthrough in Ruins on the

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moon which I want to spend the bulk of

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our time if we can talking about this

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sudden you know preoccupation with

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Chinese balloons and shooting things

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you know it kind of makes zero sense

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from any military or political

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perspective because it's almost like you

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know shoot first and ask questions later

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and now you know we shot down we I mean

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command which is our joint air defense

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with Canada we've shot these things down

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and nobody can find them yeah now you

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GPS accurate to as a colleague of mine

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said the last the other night you know

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to the width of a playing card that we

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didn't GPS track where the pieces fell

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helicopters with you know proper gear

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for Arctic weather and find the pieces

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in a week

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a whole week come on right right and I

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oh well it's not extraterrestrial it's

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probably just research or something

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attached to a corporate operation it's

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like okay so you're just shooting down

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bowing stuff or Lockheed Martin stuff I

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was gonna say aren't there legalities

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involved why hasn't any Corporation or

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private research group you know made

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news to the High Heavens like you shot

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down our private Enterprise

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equipment without even compensation yeah

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and if it was a private research group

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or a corporation whatever you know

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you're not going to do this without

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Telemetry and when on your board

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suddenly the lights go dark You're Gonna

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Know oops that was the one they took out

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so your next phone call is to your

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attorney and the phone calls after that

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are to the White House you know what the

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hell are you doing because I don't know

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I mean Greg how do we launch anything in

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this country without going through the

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FAA wouldn't this be incredibly

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dangerous and illegal

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having all this stuff floating around at

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altitudes of jetliners and civil

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aviation and all that that was the cover

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story for shooting these three things

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down they were between 40

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000 and 20 000 feet that was the last

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octagonal object over Lake Huron well if

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this has been going on and we haven't

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noticed it but I mean remember a few

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years ago like a year or two ago there

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was all this falder all around the LA

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airport sightings from incoming

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airliners of a guy flying with a

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backpack around LAX yeah yeah remember

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that whatever happened to that did they

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shoot him down no and it was an

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incredible danger to approaching

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airplanes landing in LAX or taking off

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no nothing about this story or stories

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seems to hang together

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and so I'm devoting this coming Saturday

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night which is the 18th to three hours

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of the other side of midnight trying to

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delve into with some very interesting

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people who've been involved in the whole

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UFO UAP

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disclosure project for decades I'm going

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to try to get to the bottom of some of

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the stuff from inside that we're not

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being told I think that Senator Kennedy

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no relation of course from Louisiana

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is kind of between the lines trying to

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tell us the truth in a tongue-in-cheek

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kind of way

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because look if we're dealing with real

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aliens locking her door doesn't mean a

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damn thing right haven't you ever seen

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Star Trek don't you know about beaming

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down and beaming up come on right but if

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he's trying without breaking the letter

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of the law to give people a heads up

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that what they're telling us on the

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inside is not what they're telling you

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on the outside

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I use the term and Emily Dickinson

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approach remember Emily Dickinson the

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19th century poet

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and one of her great lines was tell all

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the truth

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but tell it slant

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we're getting a lot of slant stuff these

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days

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yes yes very slanted like you say they

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are treating us like mushrooms they keep

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us in the dark and feed us a lot of BS

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and there just seems to be a different

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set of rules for someone out there than

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they have for us and just before we

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started like it is a great opportunity

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with all this going on to be able to

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talk to you now but it's also

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bittersweet because we're in the middle

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of the story and it's so new that we're

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gonna get a lot more information I would

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assume between the time of recording

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this and it going out to the world so

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who knows exactly what's what's relevant

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but Biden just spoke before we started

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recording and you were gonna say

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something about what Biden had to say

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which I didn't get to check out because

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I Was preparing but also you mentioned

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you think we might be in the end game

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elaborate on a little of that if you

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could well the end game I defined as the

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cover-up which goes back at least 70

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years plus to Roswell

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but it goes back a whole lot further I

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believe in terms of human interaction

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with extraterrestrials and by that I do

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not mean aliens you know let me Define

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some terms here to me aliens are folks

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out there who are not genetically

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related all right you couldn't marry

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them and have kids that kind of thing

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ETS can cover both aliens and family

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what do I mean by family well if the

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human species is a lot older than we've

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been told it is and human civilization

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in various forms is an incredibly

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a lot older than we've been given by

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Academia I'm talking you know the

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canonical model for civilization is

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cities and Sumer 6 000 years ago well

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there is credible evidence all over this

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planet and now based on our work looking

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at other planets that humans have been a

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high technology species in this solar

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system for tens of thousands if not

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hundreds of thousands of years if not

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per chance millions of years and we

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won't know those numbers until we get

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what's called Ground truths but we're

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seeing in the NASA data and in the

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Chinese data and the Japanese data and

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the Russian data all these missions that

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have fanned out from Earth all over the

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solar system we're looking at ruins on

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almost every object where we've got

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significant high resolution imagery and

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it's fascinating because the images are

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there the data is there but as long as

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no agency officially announces what's on

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the photographs it becomes just internet

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rumor you know a million YouTube videos

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people making outrageous claims and it's

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just noise and not many people in the

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mainstream are really paying attention

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so I've been trying to do it by the book

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I put together a very interesting

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multi-disciplinary team they're all over

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the world we connect with Skype we

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connect with email we send data back and

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forth images analyzes content all that

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and now I've got because art made this

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horrible suggestion you know years ago

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why don't you have your own show and I

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was dumb enough to take him up on the

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offer so now you know what almost 10

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years later

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I've got this show the other side of

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midnight which airs live on weekends

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Saturday and Sunday night at 9 00 PM

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Pacific and then we replay shows we have

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a club where you can join an archive for

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a nominal you know 10 bucks a month and

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you basically get access to now it's

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over a thousand hours of interviews with

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all kinds of people that I've done on

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all kinds of subjects but it's been in

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the last year or two it's been narrowing

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down more and more on this continuing

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Enterprise research which is not are we

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alone because of course we're not but

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why have they been lying to us about

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who's out there and who's been

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interacting with us in terms of this

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extended human E.T family which brings

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us to what's going on right now

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back in the 1940s I don't know whether

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you've done a lot of research into UFOs

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I presume you have here and there yeah

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yeah remember the Army Air corps started

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shooting things down

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and they set up recovery teams to go and

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pick up the pieces and the Crash disks

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and then Roswell and you know the

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incredibly interesting rumors about E.T

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humanoids and all that and medical

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experiments medical analyzes autopsies

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all that right well the one truth that

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seemed to come out of that era is do not

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under no circumstances shoot first and

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ask questions later why well it's kind

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of like that Jim Croce song you know

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don't tug on Superman's cape don't spit

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into the wind don't pull on the mask of

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the old Lone Ranger Etc so in the last

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week or two weeks now we've shot down

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three as the White House turned them

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unidentified flying objects

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who in their right mind in the military

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with what happened in 2014 with the Tic

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Tacs and all of the video and the pilot

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reports of extraordinary technology

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which can defy gravity and migrate

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literally beam from the stratosphere to

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the ocean surface in microseconds who in

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their right mind would authorized

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shooting down three objects with

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Sidewinder missiles if you weren't

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absolutely convinced that it was totally

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benign and you were not going to be

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attacked counter-attacked in other words

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you wouldn't inadvertently start an

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interplanetary War

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yeah you'd think the stakes would be

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pretty high so if we're doing that then

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you've got to ask the next level

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question well why are we doing that and

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why are we doing it so visibly and why

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did the head of NORAD say the other day

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on the record remember this is not a you

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know somebody deep in the rank this is

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the general in charge of North American

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air defense right

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he was asked the question could these be

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extraterrestrials or alien and he said

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I'm paraphrasing at this point we cannot

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rule out anything including an

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it's so crazy they've been so

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tight-lipped for so long Decades of

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Silence now all of a sudden they're

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totally transparent and the news is

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covering it across the country it just

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doesn't make any sense what if this is

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in the vernacular of how people approach

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this subject which is basically from

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popular culture

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what if this is a controlled time

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release aspirin disclosure to set up the

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premise that yeah there's folks out

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there

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but they were a little dodgy and we

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can't trust them and we need to have a

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military Readiness and look at this we

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shot three of them down and nothing

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happened so our weapons are better than

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their whip which of course is crap yeah

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but the public enlarge if the right

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authority figures say it we'll believe

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it I mean look what happened after the

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NORAD General said we can't rule out ETS

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suddenly you have the White House coming

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out saying oh they're definitely not

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extraterrestrial well how the hell do

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they know they haven't recovered one

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little piece of anything

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how do they know just because the guys

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didn't shoot back and incinerate rf22s

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and f-16s

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this really reminds me of what happened

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in the 1950s in like 1952 remember that

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incident

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where for like a couple of weeks over

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the nation's capital Washington DC the

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capital itself we've got the film

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UFOs appeared in restricted airspace yes

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and the Jets did not shoot them they

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chased them they discovered they had

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incredible technological capabilities

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and then Truman came out and did the

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same thing this white house has done

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saying nothing to see here move along

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move along it's just uh

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what do they call it

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temperature inversions doing weird

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things to the radar yeah yeah and it's

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also really odd to me that Roswell had

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this big Flying Saucer slash weather

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balloon confusion and now it's a very

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similar story are they alien crafts are

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they balloons it doesn't even seem easy

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to confuse those two things well but see

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this is playing out against the backdrop

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of what began in 2017. which was the

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official story in the New York Times

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ushering in this modern era of creeping

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disclosure where the New York Times

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published the stories of the pilots the

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stories of the radar operators other

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Sailors on the battle group around the

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USS Nimitz and then a similar battle

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group you know around Teddy Roosevelt in

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the Atlantic of Maneuvers being observed

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by so-called Tic Tacs objects about the

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size of a small car that kind of remind

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anybody of anything recently that were

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zipping around at speeds and maneuvering

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that made our f-18s and f-16s look like

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absolute primitive paintballs and Scotch

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tape and baling wire

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and they obviously were high tech

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after that through a progression of

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Maneuvers in Washington the Pentagon has

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set up now this official all anomaly

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office

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NASA has set up a separate study group

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to look into unidentified aerial

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phenomenon staffed by a whole bunch of

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you know we used to call them Eggheads

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including one former astronaut who was

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the brother of the astronaut who was the

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senator from Arizona Mark Kelly

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and this week just two days ago the

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White House suddenly announces they have

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brought the UFO problem into the White

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House officially under the National

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Security Council and they're setting up

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an inter-agency task force to basically

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Define the rules both domestically and

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internationally globally for what we do

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about unidentified objects flying in our

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skies when to shoot one down costs half

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a million bucks for each Sidewinder yes

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and then you can't find the pieces right

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right and I'm just curious what are your

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thoughts on the researchers who say that

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the whole framing of this is completely

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off that it shouldn't be in a military

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context it shouldn't be in a space alien

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context or even anything physical that

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maybe what we're really dealing with is

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some kind of angelic or spiritual type

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of presence maybe from a higher

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dimensional plane that has really been

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with man since the beginning and in this

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whole framing in the modern era is just

549
00:24:46,010 --> 00:24:43,500
completely off

550
00:24:49,010 --> 00:24:46,020
well that's a valid perspective because

551
00:24:51,350 --> 00:24:49,020
it's an open-ended science but you know

552
00:24:53,750 --> 00:24:51,360
it's like the old maxim of the West I'm

553
00:24:56,570 --> 00:24:53,760
here in New Mexico you know the heart of

554
00:24:57,830 --> 00:24:56,580
Roy Rogers and hop along Cassidy and The

555
00:25:00,049 --> 00:24:57,840
Lone Ranger

556
00:25:01,549 --> 00:25:00,059
you know you want to not shoot first but

557
00:25:05,029 --> 00:25:01,559
keep your powder dry

558
00:25:08,470 --> 00:25:05,039
you start from 3D in other words you ask

559
00:25:12,350 --> 00:25:08,480
yourself would Angels show up on radar

560
00:25:15,070 --> 00:25:12,360
I don't think so you know it's the

561
00:25:17,510 --> 00:25:15,080
Angelic or the other worldly or

562
00:25:20,210 --> 00:25:17,520
hyper-dimensional realm to this which is

563
00:25:22,010 --> 00:25:20,220
what I prefer I think is a lot more up

564
00:25:25,310 --> 00:25:22,020
close and personal

565
00:25:28,430 --> 00:25:25,320
the society-wide appearance of things

566
00:25:32,269 --> 00:25:28,440
that show up on radar to me would tend

567
00:25:35,750 --> 00:25:32,279
to indicate physical objects 3D objects

568
00:25:38,090 --> 00:25:35,760
with very extraordinary physics flight

569
00:25:40,909 --> 00:25:38,100
characteristics like the ability to

570
00:25:43,730 --> 00:25:40,919
counteract gravity and I was very amused

571
00:25:45,710 --> 00:25:43,740
when secretary Austin said last night in

572
00:25:49,789 --> 00:25:45,720
a very long interview which is going to

573
00:25:52,370 --> 00:25:49,799
show up next week on MSNBC he said our

574
00:25:54,529 --> 00:25:52,380
Radars were all tuned and what he means

575
00:25:57,110 --> 00:25:54,539
is the computers not The Radars because

576
00:25:58,549 --> 00:25:57,120
the computers are used to filter you

577
00:26:00,529 --> 00:25:58,559
know just like you can filter in your

578
00:26:03,230 --> 00:26:00,539
computer we're looking at certain items

579
00:26:06,049 --> 00:26:03,240
and rejecting everything else well if

580
00:26:09,649 --> 00:26:06,059
NORAD had looked at everything

581
00:26:11,750 --> 00:26:09,659
they would be inundated by noise so you

582
00:26:15,169 --> 00:26:11,760
filter for the things that are expected

583
00:26:18,110 --> 00:26:15,179
what I don't buy is that after the whole

584
00:26:21,529 --> 00:26:18,120
Tic Tac thing you know with the U.S Navy

585
00:26:25,370 --> 00:26:21,539
with two battle groups you know on both

586
00:26:27,890 --> 00:26:25,380
oceans West and East why we were not

587
00:26:31,310 --> 00:26:27,900
looking for things that can hover

588
00:26:33,769 --> 00:26:31,320
Against Gravity without moving at all

589
00:26:37,130 --> 00:26:33,779
that would seem to have been a logical

590
00:26:39,350 --> 00:26:37,140
National Defense posture so the idea

591
00:26:41,750 --> 00:26:39,360
that after the Chinese balloon were

592
00:26:44,149 --> 00:26:41,760
suddenly shooting down things that we

593
00:26:46,310 --> 00:26:44,159
never knew were there before I don't buy

594
00:26:49,909 --> 00:26:46,320
it for an instant and I go back to

595
00:26:52,370 --> 00:26:49,919
Senator Kennedy no relations comments

596
00:26:54,890 --> 00:26:52,380
which is what you would do if you're

597
00:26:58,250 --> 00:26:54,900
trying to give people a heads up in the

598
00:27:01,430 --> 00:26:58,260
classified briefing you know frame that

599
00:27:04,669 --> 00:27:01,440
this is not exactly what they're telling

600
00:27:06,350 --> 00:27:04,679
you and the you know lock your doors was

601
00:27:08,990 --> 00:27:06,360
metaphorical in other words in other

602
00:27:11,870 --> 00:27:09,000
words we're dealing even at the official

603
00:27:13,870 --> 00:27:11,880
level with what they think to be when

604
00:27:17,210 --> 00:27:13,880
they're telling each other the truth

605
00:27:20,210 --> 00:27:17,220
unknowns and unknowns that at the moment

606
00:27:23,690 --> 00:27:20,220
are not shooting back why we would shoot

607
00:27:25,970 --> 00:27:23,700
three objects down and have zero

608
00:27:28,130 --> 00:27:25,980
knowledge of where they came from what

609
00:27:29,510 --> 00:27:28,140
their capabilities were what they were

610
00:27:32,570 --> 00:27:29,520
doing

611
00:27:35,630 --> 00:27:32,580
I mean militarily it makes no sense no

612
00:27:39,230 --> 00:27:35,640
sense at all right right against the

613
00:27:40,970 --> 00:27:39,240
backdrop of the whole Tic-Tac phenomena

614
00:27:43,610 --> 00:27:40,980
and remember the Pentagon has said

615
00:27:45,710 --> 00:27:43,620
officially those are real videos those

616
00:27:48,470 --> 00:27:45,720
are real incidents and there's a whole

617
00:27:51,710 --> 00:27:48,480
office now set up with Congressional

618
00:27:54,230 --> 00:27:51,720
oversight which just published a report

619
00:27:56,090 --> 00:27:54,240
a few weeks ago saying that they've been

620
00:27:58,909 --> 00:27:56,100
a whole you know several hundred new

621
00:28:02,029 --> 00:27:58,919
objects discovered in the last year

622
00:28:04,370 --> 00:28:02,039
well how yeah you know is it people out

623
00:28:06,049 --> 00:28:04,380
there with magnifying glasses I mean the

624
00:28:08,690 --> 00:28:06,059
Pentagon says well we didn't notice

625
00:28:10,010 --> 00:28:08,700
these things were being picked up they

626
00:28:12,470 --> 00:28:10,020
came to us through the intelligence

627
00:28:14,690 --> 00:28:12,480
Community well how did the intelligence

628
00:28:18,289 --> 00:28:14,700
Community find out if they aren't using

629
00:28:20,870 --> 00:28:18,299
military sensors yeah who's not telling

630
00:28:23,510 --> 00:28:20,880
in other words this is a concoctination

631
00:28:26,570 --> 00:28:23,520
of lies and half truths and

632
00:28:29,690 --> 00:28:26,580
misstatements designed to confuse not to

633
00:28:33,590 --> 00:28:29,700
elucidate and it means that the folks on

634
00:28:36,830 --> 00:28:33,600
the inside are probably as puzzled and

635
00:28:39,110 --> 00:28:36,840
nervous as the folks on the outside and

636
00:28:41,330 --> 00:28:39,120
let me give you one possible scenario

637
00:28:43,669 --> 00:28:41,340
that might make sense

638
00:28:46,850 --> 00:28:43,679
we've been looking at extraterrestrial

639
00:28:49,730 --> 00:28:46,860
visitations to this planet or extra

640
00:28:52,310 --> 00:28:49,740
dimensional I'll open the filter for

641
00:28:54,590 --> 00:28:52,320
that for hundreds if not thousands of

642
00:28:56,990 --> 00:28:54,600
years yes that's on the record you just

643
00:29:00,970 --> 00:28:57,000
have to look at the right data okay

644
00:29:05,930 --> 00:29:00,980
what if recently in the last year or so

645
00:29:08,990 --> 00:29:05,940
or maybe in the last month or so a new

646
00:29:12,529 --> 00:29:09,000
player showed up

647
00:29:14,570 --> 00:29:12,539
and we don't know what to do but there

648
00:29:17,690 --> 00:29:14,580
are indications that the player might be

649
00:29:20,470 --> 00:29:17,700
hostile so we're shooting first and

650
00:29:23,169 --> 00:29:20,480
asking questions later in a stupid

651
00:29:25,850 --> 00:29:23,179
terrestrial limited technology

652
00:29:28,549 --> 00:29:25,860
preventive way because that's the way

653
00:29:31,789 --> 00:29:28,559
certain military mines are functioning

654
00:29:35,090 --> 00:29:31,799
not thinking big enough or long range

655
00:29:38,389 --> 00:29:35,100
enough to realize you do not violate the

656
00:29:40,310 --> 00:29:38,399
Jim Croce song yeah that's definitely a

657
00:29:42,470 --> 00:29:40,320
possible scenario and it does seem like

658
00:29:45,350 --> 00:29:42,480
we're just in the first few chapters of

659
00:29:46,970 --> 00:29:45,360
a larger story and time will tell but I

660
00:29:48,950 --> 00:29:46,980
definitely had to kick this off with

661
00:29:52,070 --> 00:29:48,960
getting your thoughts but as you had

662
00:29:54,169 --> 00:29:52,080
mentioned to me we are seeing a lot of

663
00:29:55,669 --> 00:29:54,179
things going on that fit into your

664
00:29:57,470 --> 00:29:55,679
wheelhouse you mentioned new

665
00:29:59,690 --> 00:29:57,480
developments with structures on the moon

666
00:30:01,190 --> 00:29:59,700
what's the latest in terms of those

667
00:30:03,350 --> 00:30:01,200
things

668
00:30:06,889 --> 00:30:03,360
well let me ask this

669
00:30:10,210 --> 00:30:06,899
are you sitting down I am

670
00:30:14,149 --> 00:30:10,220
okay we have absolute

671
00:30:17,750 --> 00:30:14,159
100 confirmation

672
00:30:21,370 --> 00:30:17,760
of my decades-old model of extraordinary

673
00:30:24,830 --> 00:30:21,380
glass structures on the moon

674
00:30:26,330 --> 00:30:24,840
and we have been doing programs at the

675
00:30:28,070 --> 00:30:26,340
other side of midnight for the last

676
00:30:30,230 --> 00:30:28,080
several months

677
00:30:32,630 --> 00:30:30,240
sometimes you know Saturday and Sunday

678
00:30:34,250 --> 00:30:32,640
and sometimes I'll kind of you know spin

679
00:30:36,049 --> 00:30:34,260
off and do something else on a Saturday

680
00:30:40,130 --> 00:30:36,059
and then we'll come back to the theme on

681
00:30:42,769 --> 00:30:40,140
Sunday programs with the imagery and

682
00:30:46,190 --> 00:30:42,779
experts and detailed conversation

683
00:30:47,750 --> 00:30:46,200
speculation analysis and all that and

684
00:30:50,750 --> 00:30:47,760
let me tell you what's kicked off this

685
00:30:54,470 --> 00:30:50,760
incredible stunning New Era

686
00:30:58,250 --> 00:30:54,480
the South Korean unmanned Mission To The

687
00:31:00,230 --> 00:30:58,260
Moon which left Earth for the Moon last

688
00:31:03,430 --> 00:31:00,240
summer

689
00:31:07,450 --> 00:31:03,440
the South Koreans have sent a

690
00:31:12,409 --> 00:31:07,460
1500 pound unmanned robotic spacecraft

691
00:31:16,210 --> 00:31:12,419
on a very long month long energy and

692
00:31:19,190 --> 00:31:16,220
fuel saving Journey so it launched

693
00:31:21,110 --> 00:31:19,200
successfully last August but it didn't

694
00:31:23,450 --> 00:31:21,120
get to the moon into orbit around the

695
00:31:26,269 --> 00:31:23,460
Moon until December

696
00:31:30,070 --> 00:31:26,279
and that's because with computers now

697
00:31:34,430 --> 00:31:30,080
you can pick a trajectory which is just

698
00:31:37,490 --> 00:31:34,440
slightly under escape velocity meaning

699
00:31:40,010 --> 00:31:37,500
if the spacecraft kept going out and out

700
00:31:43,789 --> 00:31:40,020
and out and out like a stone thrown into

701
00:31:46,070 --> 00:31:43,799
the sky it would eventually stop and

702
00:31:48,909 --> 00:31:46,080
return to Earth and crash into the

703
00:31:51,889 --> 00:31:48,919
Earth's surface at very high speed okay

704
00:31:54,950 --> 00:31:51,899
but it saves an enormous amount of fuel

705
00:31:58,070 --> 00:31:54,960
because what you do is you aim it in the

706
00:32:01,010 --> 00:31:58,080
direction that before it can stop and

707
00:32:02,450 --> 00:32:01,020
then fall back to Earth it encounters

708
00:32:05,450 --> 00:32:02,460
the Moon

709
00:32:08,210 --> 00:32:05,460
which of course is orbiting within the

710
00:32:10,970 --> 00:32:08,220
Earth's gravitational influence

711
00:32:13,130 --> 00:32:10,980
and there's a technical term for these

712
00:32:17,149 --> 00:32:13,140
trajectories they were found by computer

713
00:32:19,970 --> 00:32:17,159
Geniuses at JPL many decades ago they're

714
00:32:22,789 --> 00:32:19,980
very very very low energy transfer

715
00:32:24,769 --> 00:32:22,799
trajectories that mean that if you

716
00:32:26,750 --> 00:32:24,779
launch something from Earth to the Moon

717
00:32:28,549 --> 00:32:26,760
to go into orbit

718
00:32:29,750 --> 00:32:28,559
instead of taking like three days like

719
00:32:31,789 --> 00:32:29,760
Apollo did

720
00:32:33,590 --> 00:32:31,799
it takes like four months

721
00:32:36,529 --> 00:32:33,600
but you get there and there's the

722
00:32:38,930 --> 00:32:36,539
wonderful diagram showing the loops of

723
00:32:40,549 --> 00:32:38,940
the orbits through space and how the Sun

724
00:32:42,830 --> 00:32:40,559
and the Moon are affecting the

725
00:32:46,549 --> 00:32:42,840
trajectory and what you do is you wind

726
00:32:50,269 --> 00:32:46,559
up almost at a standstill in space

727
00:32:53,389 --> 00:32:50,279
relative to the Moon which means then a

728
00:32:56,350 --> 00:32:53,399
short rocket burn with minimum fuel can

729
00:32:59,750 --> 00:32:56,360
be used to place you into a safe

730
00:33:02,389 --> 00:32:59,760
permanent orbit around the moon so

731
00:33:06,470 --> 00:33:02,399
during this Transit during this four

732
00:33:09,190 --> 00:33:06,480
month long Transit from Earth to Moon by

733
00:33:11,049 --> 00:33:09,200
the South Korean Mission which is called

734
00:33:13,669 --> 00:33:11,059
denuri

735
00:33:17,590 --> 00:33:13,679
d-a-n-u-r-i you can look it up Google

736
00:33:20,289 --> 00:33:17,600
it's made up of two Korean words meaning

737
00:33:22,850 --> 00:33:20,299
enjoy Moon

738
00:33:26,630 --> 00:33:22,860
and joy Moon

739
00:33:29,570 --> 00:33:26,640
the South Koreans have a wonderful sense

740
00:33:30,769 --> 00:33:29,580
of humor because why are they enjoying

741
00:33:32,330 --> 00:33:30,779
the Moon

742
00:33:35,630 --> 00:33:32,340
because of what they're confirming

743
00:33:39,350 --> 00:33:35,640
that's on it which is ancient E.T ruins

744
00:33:41,509 --> 00:33:39,360
as far as the eye can see now what's

745
00:33:43,070 --> 00:33:41,519
really weird you know going back to my

746
00:33:45,769 --> 00:33:43,080
Emily Dickinson

747
00:33:46,730 --> 00:33:45,779
poem tell all the truth but tell it

748
00:33:49,070 --> 00:33:46,740
slant

749
00:33:52,190 --> 00:33:49,080
the way I got onto this is that

750
00:33:55,009 --> 00:33:52,200
obviously the South Koreans

751
00:33:57,470 --> 00:33:55,019
are in partnership with NASA they

752
00:34:00,110 --> 00:33:57,480
actually reserved a space on the

753
00:34:03,590 --> 00:34:00,120
unmanned spacecraft going to the moon

754
00:34:06,769 --> 00:34:03,600
for an experiment dedicated to the

755
00:34:09,770 --> 00:34:06,779
Future upcoming human missions of the

756
00:34:12,109 --> 00:34:09,780
NASA Artemis program remember a few

757
00:34:14,990 --> 00:34:12,119
months ago we sent an unmanned Artemis

758
00:34:16,970 --> 00:34:15,000
mission in orbit around the moon for 26

759
00:34:19,250 --> 00:34:16,980
days and everything worked and we got

760
00:34:21,530 --> 00:34:19,260
stunning imagery and it came back and

761
00:34:23,810 --> 00:34:21,540
splashed down and spacecraft was

762
00:34:26,270 --> 00:34:23,820
recovered and there's too much of data

763
00:34:29,149 --> 00:34:26,280
you know now being analyzed the next

764
00:34:31,990 --> 00:34:29,159
flight will be a human flight with

765
00:34:35,089 --> 00:34:32,000
American astronauts four of them

766
00:34:37,310 --> 00:34:35,099
including a woman and they're going to

767
00:34:39,409 --> 00:34:37,320
go into a low orbit around the moon for

768
00:34:41,389 --> 00:34:39,419
several days and then return and then

769
00:34:46,430 --> 00:34:41,399
that'll take place sometime probably

770
00:34:50,030 --> 00:34:46,440
toward the end of 2024. in 2025 they're

771
00:34:52,790 --> 00:34:50,040
planning their first landing on the moon

772
00:34:56,329 --> 00:34:52,800
with NASA astronauts since project

773
00:34:58,790 --> 00:34:56,339
Apollo in this new project Artemis

774
00:35:01,070 --> 00:34:58,800
Artemis was the sister of Apollo in

775
00:35:03,950 --> 00:35:01,080
terms of the Greek pantheon of ancient

776
00:35:07,190 --> 00:35:03,960
gods okay right all very elegant all

777
00:35:09,490 --> 00:35:07,200
very mythological all very symbolic all

778
00:35:13,250 --> 00:35:09,500
very Emily Dickinson

779
00:35:16,310 --> 00:35:13,260
and to do that they're actually sending

780
00:35:19,550 --> 00:35:16,320
in partnership with other nations these

781
00:35:22,190 --> 00:35:19,560
precursor unmanned missions to basically

782
00:35:25,310 --> 00:35:22,200
Scout where on the moon they want to

783
00:35:29,030 --> 00:35:25,320
land and what resources they will need

784
00:35:32,270 --> 00:35:29,040
in the way of orbital technology to help

785
00:35:35,530 --> 00:35:32,280
them land and so the South Korean

786
00:35:38,329 --> 00:35:35,540
mission denuri is part of this unmanned

787
00:35:41,210 --> 00:35:38,339
flotilla of spacecraft which have been

788
00:35:42,710 --> 00:35:41,220
launched over the past year or so to

789
00:35:46,550 --> 00:35:42,720
basically gather reconnaissance

790
00:35:50,270 --> 00:35:46,560
information about the lunar South Pole

791
00:35:53,930 --> 00:35:50,280
which is there somewhere there where the

792
00:35:56,510 --> 00:35:53,940
Artemis mission in 2024 the manned or

793
00:36:00,230 --> 00:35:56,520
human Mission will set American

794
00:36:05,630 --> 00:36:00,240
astronauts down on the surface in a wait

795
00:36:09,829 --> 00:36:05,640
for it Elon Musk Lander because NASA

796
00:36:13,550 --> 00:36:09,839
gave musk the sole source contract to

797
00:36:16,670 --> 00:36:13,560
develop the uh 21st century equivalent

798
00:36:19,130 --> 00:36:16,680
of the lunar module of Apollo which is

799
00:36:22,030 --> 00:36:19,140
going to be obviously a modification of

800
00:36:25,490 --> 00:36:22,040
his Starship which is now set in Texas

801
00:36:27,829 --> 00:36:25,500
for an unmanned launch of the first

802
00:36:30,050 --> 00:36:27,839
pull-up Starship the biggest most

803
00:36:34,609 --> 00:36:30,060
powerful rocket ever launched from

804
00:36:36,109 --> 00:36:34,619
anywhere on Earth the big F rocket as

805
00:36:38,810 --> 00:36:36,119
they call it

806
00:36:41,810 --> 00:36:38,820
and it will launch sometime probably in

807
00:36:44,089 --> 00:36:41,820
March into Earth orbit so we're waiting

808
00:36:46,910 --> 00:36:44,099
for that because you know what must

809
00:36:47,870 --> 00:36:46,920
longer range plan is don't you with that

810
00:36:52,150 --> 00:36:47,880
rocket

811
00:36:57,370 --> 00:36:52,160
separate from NASA going to Mars no

812
00:37:01,750 --> 00:36:57,380
going to the Moon with nine tourists ah

813
00:37:05,230 --> 00:37:01,760
nine civilians nine

814
00:37:09,230 --> 00:37:05,240
right-brained out of the box thinking

815
00:37:11,990 --> 00:37:09,240
artists musicians photographers there's

816
00:37:16,310 --> 00:37:12,000
an engineer the so-called everyday

817
00:37:20,270 --> 00:37:16,320
astronaut all hand-picked by musk and

818
00:37:21,950 --> 00:37:20,280
his uh Japanese billionaire friend and

819
00:37:25,670 --> 00:37:21,960
they will of course be going to the Moon

820
00:37:30,589 --> 00:37:25,680
they'll be spending three days sometime

821
00:37:33,530 --> 00:37:30,599
around the end of 2024 in the same time

822
00:37:35,750 --> 00:37:33,540
frame as the second Artemis Mission with

823
00:37:37,730 --> 00:37:35,760
NASA astronauts the difference being

824
00:37:40,310 --> 00:37:37,740
that the NASA astronauts will have

825
00:37:43,670 --> 00:37:40,320
signed all kinds of legal paperwork you

826
00:37:47,510 --> 00:37:43,680
know ndas non-disclosure agreements

827
00:37:49,910 --> 00:37:47,520
the civilians the artists going on must

828
00:37:53,210 --> 00:37:49,920
Starship will go into lunar orbit for

829
00:37:57,710 --> 00:37:53,220
three days at 120 miles and they will

830
00:37:59,930 --> 00:37:57,720
have signed nothing which means they can

831
00:38:02,569 --> 00:37:59,940
look out the windows there are big

832
00:38:05,230 --> 00:38:02,579
windows in the Starship with all kinds

833
00:38:08,710 --> 00:38:05,240
of cameras you know smartphones

834
00:38:12,470 --> 00:38:08,720
dedicated digital cameras 4K whatever

835
00:38:16,670 --> 00:38:12,480
and they will beam back live to the

836
00:38:17,750 --> 00:38:16,680
entire planet what they see and guess

837
00:38:19,609 --> 00:38:17,760
what

838
00:38:22,130 --> 00:38:19,619
they will beam back through Twitter

839
00:38:25,670 --> 00:38:22,140
because a guy named musk just bought

840
00:38:28,250 --> 00:38:25,680
Twitter for 44 million dollars so nobody

841
00:38:31,190 --> 00:38:28,260
will be able to censor what they're

842
00:38:33,890 --> 00:38:31,200
going to send back to Earth to confirms

843
00:38:36,050 --> 00:38:33,900
the ruins that are there

844
00:38:38,750 --> 00:38:36,060
well I like where your head's at you

845
00:38:41,030 --> 00:38:38,760
begin to see a big big plot yeah I could

846
00:38:43,069 --> 00:38:41,040
see it I mean there's a lot of claims

847
00:38:45,470 --> 00:38:43,079
going around out there and I like what

848
00:38:47,270 --> 00:38:45,480
you're saying I would be very excited if

849
00:38:49,970 --> 00:38:47,280
that were the reality and I'm a big fan

850
00:38:51,710 --> 00:38:49,980
of your work I grew up on it but you

851
00:38:54,230 --> 00:38:51,720
know when I look at everything since

852
00:38:56,690 --> 00:38:54,240
though and I think about NASA they lost

853
00:38:58,550 --> 00:38:56,700
the Telemetry data yeah you don't have a

854
00:39:00,890 --> 00:38:58,560
lot of time let me continue I'm I'm not

855
00:39:04,010 --> 00:39:00,900
done okay sure this is only winning your

856
00:39:08,390 --> 00:39:04,020
appetite all right well let's see

857
00:39:10,490 --> 00:39:08,400
the South Korean Mission and route to go

858
00:39:12,890 --> 00:39:10,500
into lunar orbit remember launched last

859
00:39:16,010 --> 00:39:12,900
August arrived at the moon when it orbit

860
00:39:19,630 --> 00:39:16,020
successfully last December and route to

861
00:39:23,810 --> 00:39:19,640
the Moon it took stunning photographs

862
00:39:27,109 --> 00:39:23,820
innumerable images of the ancient lunar

863
00:39:31,069 --> 00:39:27,119
Dome covering the Moon

864
00:39:35,690 --> 00:39:31,079
and then the Chinese Communist Space

865
00:39:38,510 --> 00:39:35,700
Program stole one of those images and is

866
00:39:42,410 --> 00:39:38,520
using it as a banner for the Chinese

867
00:39:44,089 --> 00:39:42,420
program to go to the moon and set up a

868
00:39:46,010 --> 00:39:44,099
lunar base

869
00:39:48,290 --> 00:39:46,020
which we of course are discussing at

870
00:39:50,450 --> 00:39:48,300
Great length this coming Sunday which

871
00:39:53,030 --> 00:39:50,460
will be what the week before your

872
00:39:55,849 --> 00:39:53,040
version of the show airs on your own

873
00:39:58,210 --> 00:39:55,859
radio space yeah most likely so we'll

874
00:40:02,030 --> 00:39:58,220
probably have to do some more on this

875
00:40:04,490 --> 00:40:02,040
yes see you don't have images with your

876
00:40:06,230 --> 00:40:04,500
radio show right unfortunately not but

877
00:40:08,329 --> 00:40:06,240
we can put them on the show notes if you

878
00:40:10,190 --> 00:40:08,339
have them but paint us a picture see we

879
00:40:12,170 --> 00:40:10,200
have a section of the show called radio

880
00:40:15,230 --> 00:40:12,180
with pictures

881
00:40:18,770 --> 00:40:15,240
so every week when I do the show and I

882
00:40:23,150 --> 00:40:18,780
have guests on we devote pages of the

883
00:40:26,150 --> 00:40:23,160
web to their links video imagery

884
00:40:28,790 --> 00:40:26,160
whatever and then during the replays in

885
00:40:31,430 --> 00:40:28,800
the archive people can refer to those

886
00:40:34,430 --> 00:40:31,440
images so we have done for the last

887
00:40:37,190 --> 00:40:34,440
several months detailed imagery since

888
00:40:39,770 --> 00:40:37,200
September of what the South Koreans were

889
00:40:43,010 --> 00:40:39,780
in this Exquisite Emily Dickinson

890
00:40:45,109 --> 00:40:43,020
fashion previewing for the world

891
00:40:47,630 --> 00:40:45,119
now remember we live on a planet where

892
00:40:50,470 --> 00:40:47,640
unless an authority figure sits in front

893
00:40:53,930 --> 00:40:50,480
of a TV camera and says this is reality

894
00:40:56,569 --> 00:40:53,940
all you get is an internet food fight

895
00:40:59,630 --> 00:40:56,579
in other words the South Koreans could

896
00:41:02,329 --> 00:40:59,640
have posted stunning close-ups of

897
00:41:04,730 --> 00:41:02,339
structures with doorways and windows and

898
00:41:08,870 --> 00:41:04,740
roofs and parking garages and all that

899
00:41:12,170 --> 00:41:08,880
and nobody would comment unless they

900
00:41:14,390 --> 00:41:12,180
officially announced it that's true so

901
00:41:18,430 --> 00:41:14,400
they published in this incredibly

902
00:41:21,589 --> 00:41:18,440
elegant way if you go to the actual

903
00:41:25,250 --> 00:41:21,599
donori website which is part of the

904
00:41:27,050 --> 00:41:25,260
South Korean space agency I bet you

905
00:41:29,450 --> 00:41:27,060
didn't know the South Koreans had an

906
00:41:32,510 --> 00:41:29,460
official space agency with agreements

907
00:41:36,290 --> 00:41:32,520
with NASA for previous missions

908
00:41:39,770 --> 00:41:36,300
they took a camera from NASA called a

909
00:41:42,310 --> 00:41:39,780
shadow cam designed to look into the

910
00:41:44,569 --> 00:41:42,320
Shadows at the South Pole of the Moon

911
00:41:47,450 --> 00:41:44,579
which are permanently shattered because

912
00:41:49,910 --> 00:41:47,460
the orientation of the moon is such that

913
00:41:52,130 --> 00:41:49,920
it doesn't have real dramatic Seasons

914
00:41:55,069 --> 00:41:52,140
like the Earth with its you know 23.5

915
00:41:57,530 --> 00:41:55,079
degree tilt the moon orbits basically

916
00:42:00,050 --> 00:41:57,540
almost straight up and down relative to

917
00:42:02,510 --> 00:42:00,060
the Sun so with the North Pole and the

918
00:42:05,150 --> 00:42:02,520
South Pole there are bottoms or craters

919
00:42:07,370 --> 00:42:05,160
that have never seen sunlight in

920
00:42:08,210 --> 00:42:07,380
millions and millions if not billions of

921
00:42:13,130 --> 00:42:08,220
years

922
00:42:16,490 --> 00:42:13,140
so NASA developed a camera which is 200

923
00:42:18,829 --> 00:42:16,500
times more sensitive than the camera

924
00:42:20,390 --> 00:42:18,839
they've flown to the moon at any

925
00:42:24,530 --> 00:42:20,400
previous time

926
00:42:27,290 --> 00:42:24,540
and they basically booked space on the

927
00:42:31,130 --> 00:42:27,300
South Korean spacecraft

928
00:42:33,910 --> 00:42:31,140
for their 33 pound camera

929
00:42:39,230 --> 00:42:33,920
why should that number be significant

930
00:42:41,030 --> 00:42:39,240
it's Freemasons huh yes you got it this

931
00:42:44,150 --> 00:42:41,040
is all symbolic because this is about

932
00:42:46,490 --> 00:42:44,160
opening the treasure chest to our

933
00:42:49,910 --> 00:42:46,500
ancient Heritage which these secret

934
00:42:52,250 --> 00:42:49,920
occult societies have owned for

935
00:42:53,690 --> 00:42:52,260
thousands of years really you think

936
00:42:55,250 --> 00:42:53,700
they're going to open up

937
00:42:58,490 --> 00:42:55,260
they have to

938
00:43:00,290 --> 00:42:58,500
because of people like Elon Musk and a

939
00:43:02,930 --> 00:43:00,300
whole bunch of other nations that are

940
00:43:05,089 --> 00:43:02,940
planning to send civilian tourists to

941
00:43:07,130 --> 00:43:05,099
the Moon well what about people who say

942
00:43:09,349 --> 00:43:07,140
Elon Musk is just another billionaire

943
00:43:11,089 --> 00:43:09,359
he's positioned to play the role of the

944
00:43:14,270 --> 00:43:11,099
man of the people but he comes from an

945
00:43:16,609 --> 00:43:14,280
elite family his father ran mines in a

946
00:43:19,849 --> 00:43:16,619
in a really sketchy situation to kind of

947
00:43:21,589 --> 00:43:19,859
ethically sketchy way his mother has

948
00:43:23,930 --> 00:43:21,599
some weird occult stuff she's always

949
00:43:25,849 --> 00:43:23,940
flashing the same old symbols what do

950
00:43:27,950 --> 00:43:25,859
you think about this just being an act

951
00:43:31,490 --> 00:43:27,960
that he's not really going to do

952
00:43:33,410 --> 00:43:31,500
anything to to truly help mankind well a

953
00:43:35,390 --> 00:43:33,420
if he doesn't somebody else will there

954
00:43:37,790 --> 00:43:35,400
are seven billion people on this planet

955
00:43:40,790 --> 00:43:37,800
and a lot of Rich Nations and a lot of

956
00:43:43,790 --> 00:43:40,800
Rich billionaires look at the Bezos all

957
00:43:46,430 --> 00:43:43,800
right Bezos has planned separately to go

958
00:43:47,990 --> 00:43:46,440
to the moon in What's called the new

959
00:43:50,089 --> 00:43:48,000
Armstrong

960
00:43:52,730 --> 00:43:50,099
rocket and spacecraft

961
00:43:55,670 --> 00:43:52,740
anyway the point is it's competition now

962
00:43:57,829 --> 00:43:55,680
we're in a totally different mode than

963
00:44:01,790 --> 00:43:57,839
government control space programs right

964
00:44:03,770 --> 00:44:01,800
and if you don't send people there are

965
00:44:06,410 --> 00:44:03,780
now Technologies available that are

966
00:44:10,130 --> 00:44:06,420
literally off the shelf where for the

967
00:44:12,829 --> 00:44:10,140
price of like a Mercedes-Benz you can

968
00:44:15,170 --> 00:44:12,839
send a private unmanned Mission with the

969
00:44:17,569 --> 00:44:15,180
right technology to photograph the hell

970
00:44:19,730 --> 00:44:17,579
out of these things and display it all

971
00:44:22,010 --> 00:44:19,740
over the world right which of course is

972
00:44:24,710 --> 00:44:22,020
what the South Koreans did let me tell

973
00:44:29,390 --> 00:44:24,720
you what they did that's so elegant that

974
00:44:30,710 --> 00:44:29,400
allows them to confirm my model and I've

975
00:44:33,170 --> 00:44:30,720
looked and looked and looked I'm the

976
00:44:35,630 --> 00:44:33,180
only guy that's claimed that in

977
00:44:37,910 --> 00:44:35,640
extraordinarily ancient times millions

978
00:44:40,550 --> 00:44:37,920
and millions of years ago somebody with

979
00:44:44,210 --> 00:44:40,560
incredible technology domed the entire

980
00:44:47,750 --> 00:44:44,220
moon in with layers of glass like shell

981
00:44:50,809 --> 00:44:47,760
like domes and then meteor erosion took

982
00:44:53,990 --> 00:44:50,819
place on the side that we can see the

983
00:44:55,190 --> 00:44:54,000
domes are almost completely eroded how

984
00:44:56,809 --> 00:44:55,200
do we know this

985
00:44:59,809 --> 00:44:56,819
well if they weren't you couldn't have

986
00:45:01,130 --> 00:44:59,819
landed spacecraft repeatedly both manned

987
00:45:05,089 --> 00:45:01,140
and unmanned

988
00:45:08,329 --> 00:45:05,099
on the far side the side that the Orion

989
00:45:11,270 --> 00:45:08,339
Mission photographed the Artemis mission

990
00:45:14,089 --> 00:45:11,280
the images are stunningly complete now

991
00:45:16,490 --> 00:45:14,099
that the Dome is much denser much

992
00:45:19,849 --> 00:45:16,500
thicker and has most extraordinary

993
00:45:22,309 --> 00:45:19,859
Visual and Optical properties and we've

994
00:45:24,410 --> 00:45:22,319
got all that data on the other side of

995
00:45:26,270 --> 00:45:24,420
midnight website going back several

996
00:45:29,630 --> 00:45:26,280
months to all the shows we've done on

997
00:45:32,510 --> 00:45:29,640
this with various experts and Analysis

998
00:45:35,809 --> 00:45:32,520
so what the South Koreans have done is

999
00:45:39,950 --> 00:45:35,819
they took a special camera that the

1000
00:45:41,990 --> 00:45:39,960
Korean space agency developed called a

1001
00:45:44,750 --> 00:45:42,000
polarizing camera

1002
00:45:46,750 --> 00:45:44,760
you know what polarizing filters are yes

1003
00:45:49,970 --> 00:45:46,760
I believe they're used to produce glare

1004
00:45:51,170 --> 00:45:49,980
well they do if that's what you want

1005
00:45:54,950 --> 00:45:51,180
them to do

1006
00:45:56,809 --> 00:45:54,960
they also can enhance glare if that's

1007
00:45:59,809 --> 00:45:56,819
what you want them to do because the

1008
00:46:01,250 --> 00:45:59,819
light comes in two forms ordinary life

1009
00:46:03,530 --> 00:46:01,260
that you're looking at in the studio and

1010
00:46:05,630 --> 00:46:03,540
I'm looking at outside on this gorgeous

1011
00:46:08,150 --> 00:46:05,640
New Mexico afternoon

1012
00:46:11,150 --> 00:46:08,160
comes in two forms it's filtered in

1013
00:46:14,349 --> 00:46:11,160
terms of color right red wavelengths

1014
00:46:17,210 --> 00:46:14,359
green blue violet that kind of thing

1015
00:46:20,930 --> 00:46:17,220
it's also filtered in terms of what's

1016
00:46:23,750 --> 00:46:20,940
called polarization what does that mean

1017
00:46:25,809 --> 00:46:23,760
it means that light vibrates in a

1018
00:46:30,230 --> 00:46:25,819
certain geometric plane

1019
00:46:34,130 --> 00:46:30,240
circular polarized light vibrates in all

1020
00:46:37,370 --> 00:46:34,140
360 Degrees simultaneously that's why

1021
00:46:40,370 --> 00:46:37,380
it's called circular polarization

1022
00:46:44,450 --> 00:46:40,380
but light when it bounces off surfaces

1023
00:46:47,750 --> 00:46:44,460
like water like clouds like certain

1024
00:46:51,670 --> 00:46:47,760
materials like optically transparent

1025
00:46:55,790 --> 00:46:51,680
materials like glass

1026
00:46:59,510 --> 00:46:55,800
it eliminates most of the planes of

1027
00:47:02,690 --> 00:46:59,520
vibration so it vibrates essentially in

1028
00:47:05,990 --> 00:47:02,700
One Direction like up and down or

1029
00:47:08,510 --> 00:47:06,000
sideways or caddy Corner if you look at

1030
00:47:12,170 --> 00:47:08,520
a circle in front of you and you do like

1031
00:47:14,870 --> 00:47:12,180
from six to midnight or nine to three in

1032
00:47:18,290 --> 00:47:14,880
terms of planes of polarization

1033
00:47:21,829 --> 00:47:18,300
you can create filters that will look at

1034
00:47:25,309 --> 00:47:21,839
those specific filtered planes of

1035
00:47:28,809 --> 00:47:25,319
polarization and enhance them and

1036
00:47:31,670 --> 00:47:28,819
exclude all other background

1037
00:47:35,569 --> 00:47:31,680
non-polarized light which means you can

1038
00:47:39,109 --> 00:47:35,579
basically look at the reflections from

1039
00:47:43,010 --> 00:47:39,119
the glass which at certain angles are

1040
00:47:45,829 --> 00:47:43,020
100 percent polarized and you can

1041
00:47:47,750 --> 00:47:45,839
exclude all other light

1042
00:47:50,809 --> 00:47:47,760
which means when you take a photograph

1043
00:47:54,170 --> 00:47:50,819
through a proper Polaroid filter that's

1044
00:47:58,250 --> 00:47:54,180
aligned properly you can enhance the

1045
00:48:02,030 --> 00:47:58,260
polarized Reflections from the domes and

1046
00:48:04,790 --> 00:48:02,040
exclude all other extraneous background

1047
00:48:07,370 --> 00:48:04,800
detail and that's what the Koreans did

1048
00:48:10,430 --> 00:48:07,380
that's what they published and we've got

1049
00:48:13,430 --> 00:48:10,440
the pictures and they're stunning huh

1050
00:48:16,550 --> 00:48:13,440
absolutely shatteringly stunning there

1051
00:48:19,670 --> 00:48:16,560
is no way that you can explain this in

1052
00:48:22,250 --> 00:48:19,680
any other fashion than like I just did I

1053
00:48:24,230 --> 00:48:22,260
love it I love it and that is really

1054
00:48:25,730 --> 00:48:24,240
great to finally get that confirmation I

1055
00:48:29,210 --> 00:48:25,740
know you've been talking about that for

1056
00:48:31,010 --> 00:48:29,220
over a decade and as wild as things are

1057
00:48:33,530 --> 00:48:31,020
out there and as interesting as the

1058
00:48:34,670 --> 00:48:33,540
South Korean stuff is you know I've been

1059
00:48:36,290 --> 00:48:34,680
wanting to talk to you for a long time

1060
00:48:38,510 --> 00:48:36,300
and I gotta fit this into the first hour

1061
00:48:40,190 --> 00:48:38,520
we gotta segue a little bit over to

1062
00:48:42,230 --> 00:48:40,200
talking about dark Mission the secret

1063
00:48:45,770 --> 00:48:42,240
history of NASA this book came out in

1064
00:48:48,170 --> 00:48:45,780
2007 and in it you decode Egyptians

1065
00:48:50,089 --> 00:48:48,180
symbolism and NASA patches and the

1066
00:48:52,309 --> 00:48:50,099
ritualization of their missions like I'd

1067
00:48:54,829 --> 00:48:52,319
never seen anyone do you go deep into

1068
00:48:56,809 --> 00:48:54,839
the Jack Parsons occult origins of the

1069
00:48:58,910 --> 00:48:56,819
Space Program stuff way before it was

1070
00:49:01,430 --> 00:48:58,920
trendy you lay out some great stuff

1071
00:49:03,050 --> 00:49:01,440
about ruins and the face on Mars and of

1072
00:49:05,870 --> 00:49:03,060
course the crystal structures on the

1073
00:49:09,050 --> 00:49:05,880
moon it was all foundational in a lot of

1074
00:49:11,809 --> 00:49:09,060
ways that I still consider when thinking

1075
00:49:14,569 --> 00:49:11,819
about NASA today but what can you say

1076
00:49:17,510 --> 00:49:14,579
about this strange Egyptian Motif

1077
00:49:20,510 --> 00:49:17,520
Obsession the ritualization of their

1078
00:49:23,990 --> 00:49:20,520
missions and Patch symbolism and where

1079
00:49:26,089 --> 00:49:24,000
is the state of the occult aspects in

1080
00:49:28,190 --> 00:49:26,099
more recent activity did they still seem

1081
00:49:29,569 --> 00:49:28,200
to have this dark mission

1082
00:49:32,450 --> 00:49:29,579
well yeah

1083
00:49:34,790 --> 00:49:32,460
remember NASA made a contract with the

1084
00:49:37,069 --> 00:49:34,800
South Korean space agency to put the

1085
00:49:39,410 --> 00:49:37,079
shadow cam which of course is really

1086
00:49:41,690 --> 00:49:39,420
NASA's camera to photograph the domes

1087
00:49:44,690 --> 00:49:41,700
why would NASA want to secretly under

1088
00:49:47,089 --> 00:49:44,700
recover story photograph in those dark

1089
00:49:48,770 --> 00:49:47,099
craters at the South Pole

1090
00:49:51,349 --> 00:49:48,780
the Dome layers

1091
00:49:53,390 --> 00:49:51,359
flying above the craters right because

1092
00:49:55,670 --> 00:49:53,400
if they're going to land they need to

1093
00:49:58,430 --> 00:49:55,680
know where the holes are so they can

1094
00:50:00,250 --> 00:49:58,440
safely send the mission down to land on

1095
00:50:02,870 --> 00:50:00,260
the surface without killing everybody

1096
00:50:04,730 --> 00:50:02,880
and obviously at that stage of the game

1097
00:50:06,710 --> 00:50:04,740
they weren't going to admit it in public

1098
00:50:08,809 --> 00:50:06,720
so when they set up the contract with

1099
00:50:12,050 --> 00:50:08,819
the South Koreans which was many years

1100
00:50:14,990 --> 00:50:12,060
ago we were in a different phase of this

1101
00:50:15,829 --> 00:50:15,000
unveiling disclosure process than we are

1102
00:50:18,890 --> 00:50:15,839
now

1103
00:50:21,410 --> 00:50:18,900
so Mike Millen who is the cover-up king

1104
00:50:23,510 --> 00:50:21,420
of NASA photography remember he was a

1105
00:50:26,150 --> 00:50:23,520
principal investigator on the Mars

1106
00:50:29,030 --> 00:50:26,160
surveyor mission to photograph cydonia

1107
00:50:31,329 --> 00:50:29,040
and then Mars Observer before that

1108
00:50:33,710 --> 00:50:31,339
and then also the many missions

1109
00:50:36,109 --> 00:50:33,720
subsequent and of course he hasn't told

1110
00:50:39,170 --> 00:50:36,119
the truth about what's a Sedonia and the

1111
00:50:42,170 --> 00:50:39,180
face from day one so he's the principal

1112
00:50:44,150 --> 00:50:42,180
investigator on this Shadow cam which is

1113
00:50:46,490 --> 00:50:44,160
really a cover story you know more

1114
00:50:48,910 --> 00:50:46,500
dickinsonian not telling the truth but

1115
00:50:53,030 --> 00:50:48,920
telling it slant to basically photograph

1116
00:50:56,510 --> 00:50:53,040
the domes for NASA in complementary

1117
00:50:58,549 --> 00:50:56,520
Style with the polarization camera from

1118
00:51:00,530 --> 00:50:58,559
the south Koreans because the South

1119
00:51:02,510 --> 00:51:00,540
Koreans you know they don't say we're

1120
00:51:04,910 --> 00:51:02,520
putting this camera on our spacecraft to

1121
00:51:06,710 --> 00:51:04,920
look for glass ruins on the moon no

1122
00:51:10,809 --> 00:51:06,720
they're saying they're analyzing

1123
00:51:14,150 --> 00:51:10,819
different surface properties okay

1124
00:51:16,730 --> 00:51:14,160
like they always do right but after the

1125
00:51:18,770 --> 00:51:16,740
show I'm going to send you some of these

1126
00:51:20,450 --> 00:51:18,780
photographs great I'll include them what

1127
00:51:23,630 --> 00:51:20,460
you're going to do is you'll post them

1128
00:51:26,030 --> 00:51:23,640
on your website you'll point where

1129
00:51:27,790 --> 00:51:26,040
people can get much more information to

1130
00:51:30,829 --> 00:51:27,800
our website the other side of midnight

1131
00:51:33,589 --> 00:51:30,839
and we'll do a kind of a handoff between

1132
00:51:36,230 --> 00:51:33,599
each other because it's now Steamboat

1133
00:51:39,470 --> 00:51:36,240
time this is confirmation yes there's

1134
00:51:41,930 --> 00:51:39,480
there's such Elegance and such elegant

1135
00:51:43,490 --> 00:51:41,940
science in this so let me tell you

1136
00:51:45,650 --> 00:51:43,500
another piece of the story

1137
00:51:46,609 --> 00:51:45,660
people really don't pay attention to

1138
00:51:51,710 --> 00:51:46,619
robots

1139
00:51:54,290 --> 00:51:51,720
solar system sending back stunning

1140
00:51:56,630 --> 00:51:54,300
images confirming all my out there

1141
00:51:57,950 --> 00:51:56,640
bizarre models and nobody gives a damn

1142
00:52:01,730 --> 00:51:57,960
why

1143
00:52:05,030 --> 00:52:01,740
because there are no people involved

1144
00:52:09,170 --> 00:52:05,040
people relate to people

1145
00:52:12,190 --> 00:52:09,180
right that's true which is why musk

1146
00:52:17,329 --> 00:52:12,200
sending nine tourists to the Moon

1147
00:52:18,829 --> 00:52:17,339
probably around Christmas of 2024 which

1148
00:52:20,750 --> 00:52:18,839
is just months away

1149
00:52:23,569 --> 00:52:20,760
I mean you won't believe how fast that

1150
00:52:26,390 --> 00:52:23,579
time is going to go can you imagine a

1151
00:52:28,910 --> 00:52:26,400
more extraordinary Christmas present for

1152
00:52:31,370 --> 00:52:28,920
the world now you say that must just

1153
00:52:33,349 --> 00:52:31,380
could be a stalking horse a plant you

1154
00:52:35,270 --> 00:52:33,359
know someone who's just dissembling is

1155
00:52:36,770 --> 00:52:35,280
not going to do anything well he's

1156
00:52:38,630 --> 00:52:36,780
already stated on the record he's going

1157
00:52:41,390 --> 00:52:38,640
to do it he's already got contractual

1158
00:52:44,690 --> 00:52:41,400
commitments they've already picked the

1159
00:52:48,730 --> 00:52:44,700
nine astronauts and guess what Greg we

1160
00:52:54,410 --> 00:52:48,740
are in touch with them behind the scenes

1161
00:52:58,490 --> 00:52:54,420
we are briefing these nine civilians on

1162
00:53:00,049 --> 00:52:58,500
how to see and photograph the structures

1163
00:53:02,690 --> 00:53:00,059
on the moon

1164
00:53:04,150 --> 00:53:02,700
and you know what the secret sauce is

1165
00:53:06,549 --> 00:53:04,160
what's that

1166
00:53:09,910 --> 00:53:06,559
polarizing filters

1167
00:53:13,849 --> 00:53:09,920
and one of them is a professional

1168
00:53:17,569 --> 00:53:13,859
photographer I like it so we're going to

1169
00:53:19,670 --> 00:53:17,579
have that civilian crew prepped

1170
00:53:22,370 --> 00:53:19,680
and believe me if they've been dumb

1171
00:53:25,670 --> 00:53:22,380
enough to sign any ndas we will smoke

1172
00:53:27,829 --> 00:53:25,680
that out before they leave but when

1173
00:53:32,990 --> 00:53:27,839
those people arrive in lunar orbit

1174
00:53:35,569 --> 00:53:33,000
remember in months not years in months

1175
00:53:37,910 --> 00:53:35,579
they will be equipped with the right

1176
00:53:41,510 --> 00:53:37,920
filters the right cameras the right

1177
00:53:43,309 --> 00:53:41,520
technology to not only see

1178
00:53:46,190 --> 00:53:43,319
because all you have to do is to look

1179
00:53:48,470 --> 00:53:46,200
out the window and rotate the polarizing

1180
00:53:50,150 --> 00:53:48,480
filter to the right angle and the ruins

1181
00:53:52,250 --> 00:53:50,160
will just pop out

1182
00:53:54,770 --> 00:53:52,260
because you'll be excluding all

1183
00:53:57,309 --> 00:53:54,780
extraneous background noise and

1184
00:54:01,250 --> 00:53:57,319
amplifying the signal of glass

1185
00:54:03,650 --> 00:54:01,260
interacting with light do you know in

1186
00:54:07,970 --> 00:54:03,660
science there is something called the

1187
00:54:11,870 --> 00:54:07,980
Brewster angle which is 53 degrees which

1188
00:54:15,829 --> 00:54:11,880
is the maximum plane of polarization for

1189
00:54:18,950 --> 00:54:15,839
light interacting with glass hmm

1190
00:54:21,650 --> 00:54:18,960
and we've got photographs showing the

1191
00:54:25,210 --> 00:54:21,660
imagery of the Moon not taken by the

1192
00:54:29,390 --> 00:54:25,220
south Koreans but taken by terrestrial

1193
00:54:31,970 --> 00:54:29,400
amateur astronomers during a total

1194
00:54:34,190 --> 00:54:31,980
eclipse of the Sun

1195
00:54:37,270 --> 00:54:34,200
because during total eclipses of the Sun

1196
00:54:40,970 --> 00:54:37,280
what is that big black dark circle

1197
00:54:41,930 --> 00:54:40,980
blotting out the sun they say it's the

1198
00:54:44,809 --> 00:54:41,940
Moon

1199
00:54:46,370 --> 00:54:44,819
of course it's the moon it's the side of

1200
00:54:49,490 --> 00:54:46,380
the moon that always faces the Earth

1201
00:54:51,710 --> 00:54:49,500
right but it's in darkness because it's

1202
00:54:56,150 --> 00:54:51,720
hidden from sunlight it's in the moon's

1203
00:54:57,290 --> 00:54:56,160
Shadow right right but it is not totally

1204
00:55:00,710 --> 00:54:57,300
dark

1205
00:55:04,010 --> 00:55:00,720
what's shining on the night Side of the

1206
00:55:06,109 --> 00:55:04,020
Moon during a total solar eclipse

1207
00:55:09,190 --> 00:55:06,119
would be the sun's reflection off the

1208
00:55:13,970 --> 00:55:09,200
Earth exactly it's called Earth shine

1209
00:55:15,530 --> 00:55:13,980
Earth Shine On The Moon is 80 times

1210
00:55:18,530 --> 00:55:15,540
brighter

1211
00:55:19,250 --> 00:55:18,540
then Moonlight full Moonlight on the

1212
00:55:20,990 --> 00:55:19,260
Earth

1213
00:55:22,010 --> 00:55:21,000
is that why they tell us not to look at

1214
00:55:23,630 --> 00:55:22,020
it because they don't want us to see

1215
00:55:26,450 --> 00:55:23,640
what's on there no no no no that's

1216
00:55:28,390 --> 00:55:26,460
because of a solar surface no no has

1217
00:55:31,970 --> 00:55:28,400
nothing to do with the Moon

1218
00:55:35,329 --> 00:55:31,980
full sunlight is about 10

1219
00:55:36,410 --> 00:55:35,339
000 times brighter than Earth light on

1220
00:55:38,030 --> 00:55:36,420
the moon

1221
00:55:39,770 --> 00:55:38,040
and now we get into the whole thing you

1222
00:55:41,750 --> 00:55:39,780
know why were there no stars in the

1223
00:55:43,309 --> 00:55:41,760
Apollo images and all that it's because

1224
00:55:45,530 --> 00:55:43,319
of Technology

1225
00:55:48,049 --> 00:55:45,540
what they call the latitude of the

1226
00:55:50,270 --> 00:55:48,059
photographing system simply could not

1227
00:55:52,730 --> 00:55:50,280
handle faint Starlight and Brilliant

1228
00:55:55,670 --> 00:55:52,740
sunlight because Starlight is millions

1229
00:55:58,370 --> 00:55:55,680
of times dimmer than bright Landscapes

1230
00:56:04,309 --> 00:55:58,380
on the moon lit by sunlight

1231
00:56:06,370 --> 00:56:04,319
but during total solar eclipses

1232
00:56:10,790 --> 00:56:06,380
let me give you a little kind of a retro

1233
00:56:13,549 --> 00:56:10,800
way back in March of 1970 when I was

1234
00:56:15,309 --> 00:56:13,559
science advisor to Walter Cronkite and

1235
00:56:19,250 --> 00:56:15,319
we borrowed a

1236
00:56:21,890 --> 00:56:19,260
kc-135 jet aircraft from the U.S Air

1237
00:56:25,069 --> 00:56:21,900
Force a missile tracking

1238
00:56:28,069 --> 00:56:25,079
aircraft and we outfitted it with a

1239
00:56:31,490 --> 00:56:28,079
special telescope and television system

1240
00:56:36,049 --> 00:56:31,500
that I helped design we flew that

1241
00:56:39,130 --> 00:56:36,059
aircraft in March of 1970 at 40 000 feet

1242
00:56:43,730 --> 00:56:39,140
over the east coast of the United States

1243
00:56:47,690 --> 00:56:43,740
and chased the racing shadow of the Moon

1244
00:56:50,450 --> 00:56:47,700
in Eclipse tracking up the east coast of

1245
00:56:52,490 --> 00:56:50,460
the United States to Newfoundland which

1246
00:56:55,670 --> 00:56:52,500
by the way is the eclipse of Carly Simon

1247
00:56:57,770 --> 00:56:55,680
wrote that great song about I don't know

1248
00:56:59,030 --> 00:56:57,780
that one I can hear it in my head I

1249
00:57:01,549 --> 00:56:59,040
can't remember the name of it at the

1250
00:57:03,470 --> 00:57:01,559
moment it was it was written to it was a

1251
00:57:05,809 --> 00:57:03,480
kind of a secret Ode to Warren Beatty

1252
00:57:07,910 --> 00:57:05,819
who she was you know

1253
00:57:10,370 --> 00:57:07,920
in love with at the time

1254
00:57:12,829 --> 00:57:10,380
and he had jilted her so she wrote this

1255
00:57:16,309 --> 00:57:12,839
Bizarre song in which the eclipse of

1256
00:57:19,490 --> 00:57:16,319
March of 1970 is included You're So Vain

1257
00:57:21,109 --> 00:57:19,500
that was the title of the song ah all

1258
00:57:24,109 --> 00:57:21,119
right and it talks about the eclipse

1259
00:57:26,750 --> 00:57:24,119
anyway there I am at 40 000 feet guiding

1260
00:57:30,650 --> 00:57:26,760
a special telescope in a borrowed you

1261
00:57:33,829 --> 00:57:30,660
know U.S Air Force kc-135 broadcasting

1262
00:57:37,670 --> 00:57:33,839
for the first time in history a live

1263
00:57:40,730 --> 00:57:37,680
color TV view through our telescope of

1264
00:57:42,950 --> 00:57:40,740
the total eclipse of the Sun that Carly

1265
00:57:45,770 --> 00:57:42,960
Simon put in the song okay

1266
00:57:50,089 --> 00:57:45,780
and what I tried to do with technology

1267
00:57:52,370 --> 00:57:50,099
of 1970 is to photograph simultaneously

1268
00:57:56,990 --> 00:57:52,380
the eclipse

1269
00:58:00,890 --> 00:57:57,000
and the Earth light on the dark black

1270
00:58:03,650 --> 00:58:00,900
disc of the Moon that only appears as a

1271
00:58:06,950 --> 00:58:03,660
black disc people don't see the familiar

1272
00:58:09,710 --> 00:58:06,960
features because in the contrast of the

1273
00:58:12,290 --> 00:58:09,720
brilliant light of the Corona and the

1274
00:58:14,230 --> 00:58:12,300
Very dim light of Earth shine you can't

1275
00:58:16,730 --> 00:58:14,240
really see it unless you have

1276
00:58:20,870 --> 00:58:16,740
technological Aid

1277
00:58:23,329 --> 00:58:20,880
we've got videotape of that effort that

1278
00:58:25,790 --> 00:58:23,339
experiment and on that old videotape

1279
00:58:30,049 --> 00:58:25,800
I've gone back now and looked and you

1280
00:58:32,390 --> 00:58:30,059
can see indications of the glass domes

1281
00:58:34,370 --> 00:58:32,400
it's bizarre it's extraordinary it's

1282
00:58:37,069 --> 00:58:34,380
astounding and it's history remember

1283
00:58:39,890 --> 00:58:37,079
YouTube saves everything in your life

1284
00:58:42,950 --> 00:58:39,900
that ever was committed to film so be

1285
00:58:46,250 --> 00:58:42,960
careful what you do in retrospect way

1286
00:58:50,270 --> 00:58:46,260
back when anyway so we've got an eclipse

1287
00:58:52,670 --> 00:58:50,280
coming up in 2024 right you're aware of

1288
00:58:56,210 --> 00:58:52,680
that right yep gonna be in Texas to see

1289
00:58:58,849 --> 00:58:56,220
it in 2017 there was one which Robin and

1290
00:59:02,510 --> 00:58:58,859
I recorded with instrumentation uh for

1291
00:59:04,849 --> 00:59:02,520
the physics in 2024 there's a second one

1292
00:59:07,730 --> 00:59:04,859
which kind of crosses in the middle of

1293
00:59:10,430 --> 00:59:07,740
the country and goes up kind of like

1294
00:59:13,309 --> 00:59:10,440
toward the east coast unlike the one in

1295
00:59:14,950 --> 00:59:13,319
2017 which went down kind of like the

1296
00:59:18,289 --> 00:59:14,960
Southeast coast

1297
00:59:20,690 --> 00:59:18,299
very very rare that you would get two

1298
00:59:22,609 --> 00:59:20,700
total eclipses crossing the same

1299
00:59:24,650 --> 00:59:22,619
continent within a few years of each

1300
00:59:27,789 --> 00:59:24,660
other very rare

1301
00:59:31,250 --> 00:59:27,799
all those people in the path of totality

1302
00:59:34,789 --> 00:59:31,260
if we reach them with the right mass

1303
00:59:37,970 --> 00:59:34,799
media which we're planning now will be

1304
00:59:39,130 --> 00:59:37,980
able to from their own backyards and the

1305
00:59:42,470 --> 00:59:39,140
proper

1306
00:59:45,289 --> 00:59:42,480
binoculars or smartphones and telescopes

1307
00:59:48,109 --> 00:59:45,299
or whatever they will be able with

1308
00:59:49,549 --> 00:59:48,119
polarizing filters to do what's already

1309
00:59:51,170 --> 00:59:49,559
been done

1310
00:59:53,870 --> 00:59:51,180
but the astronomers didn't know what

1311
00:59:56,630 --> 00:59:53,880
they were doing in photographing the

1312
01:00:00,650 --> 00:59:56,640
ancient glass Dome around the Moon

1313
01:00:03,650 --> 01:00:00,660
because when the sunlight hits the Earth

1314
01:00:07,190 --> 01:00:03,660
it partially enters the water and is

1315
01:00:13,490 --> 01:00:07,200
partially reflected that reflected wave

1316
01:00:17,089 --> 01:00:13,500
is up to 30 to 40 percent polarized

1317
01:00:19,990 --> 01:00:17,099
it then reaches the moon you with me I'm

1318
01:00:23,750 --> 01:00:20,000
with you it's reflected off the glass

1319
01:00:26,510 --> 01:00:23,760
structures the upper levels at a hundred

1320
01:00:28,910 --> 01:00:26,520
percent at the Brewster angle

1321
01:00:31,970 --> 01:00:28,920
and that's why you see

1322
01:00:35,030 --> 01:00:31,980
in this incredible natural

1323
01:00:38,089 --> 01:00:35,040
solar system experiment

1324
01:00:40,490 --> 01:00:38,099
the Moon and the Earth are the only two

1325
01:00:42,890 --> 01:00:40,500
bodies in the whole solar system where

1326
01:00:46,250 --> 01:00:42,900
this works because Earth is a water

1327
01:00:49,130 --> 01:00:46,260
world right and water polarizes sunlight

1328
01:00:51,890 --> 01:00:49,140
and acts like a partial polarizing

1329
01:00:54,109 --> 01:00:51,900
filter and that is reflected in Earth

1330
01:00:58,730 --> 01:00:54,119
Shine from the glass ruins on the moon

1331
01:01:02,510 --> 01:00:58,740
and Bingo on thousands and thousands of

1332
01:01:05,510 --> 01:01:02,520
images ordinary citizens will be able to

1333
01:01:08,150 --> 01:01:05,520
photograph from their own backyard this

1334
01:01:11,750 --> 01:01:08,160
extraordinary ancient reality of a

1335
01:01:14,710 --> 01:01:11,760
civilization a super high-tech Ultra

1336
01:01:21,190 --> 01:01:14,720
civilization that was able to literally

1337
01:01:25,329 --> 01:01:21,200
dome in in glass the entire ancient Moon

1338
01:01:27,829 --> 01:01:25,339
wow we are on the threshold of stunning

1339
01:01:30,710 --> 01:01:27,839
developments that will be amazing we're

1340
01:01:33,710 --> 01:01:30,720
just one year away and in December

1341
01:01:34,930 --> 01:01:33,720
remember the eclipses in April of 2024

1342
01:01:38,289 --> 01:01:34,940
right

1343
01:01:43,609 --> 01:01:38,299
the total eclipses April I believe

1344
01:01:46,190 --> 01:01:43,619
2024 yes yes okay in December being very

1345
01:01:48,230 --> 01:01:46,200
generous with rocket development and

1346
01:01:50,510 --> 01:01:48,240
must time frame and all that you're

1347
01:01:52,130 --> 01:01:50,520
going to have those nine tourists who

1348
01:01:55,390 --> 01:01:52,140
are going to be orbiting for three days

1349
01:01:57,829 --> 01:01:55,400
just 120 miles up

1350
01:01:59,690 --> 01:01:57,839
equipped with the proper filters the

1351
01:02:02,930 --> 01:01:59,700
proper cameras and the proper

1352
01:02:06,789 --> 01:02:02,940
instruction from us as to what to see

1353
01:02:11,510 --> 01:02:06,799
what to verify and what to send home

1354
01:02:14,270 --> 01:02:11,520
uncensored unblocked by Twitter that's

1355
01:02:16,430 --> 01:02:14,280
why musk bought Twitter

1356
01:02:18,770 --> 01:02:16,440
that's an interesting premise we shall

1357
01:02:21,349 --> 01:02:18,780
see well do you know how I know all this

1358
01:02:23,329 --> 01:02:21,359
how are you aware that musk and Joe

1359
01:02:25,849 --> 01:02:23,339
Rogan spend a half an hour talking about

1360
01:02:28,190 --> 01:02:25,859
my research a few months ago yes I am

1361
01:02:31,970 --> 01:02:28,200
yes I am and that they had the book

1362
01:02:34,870 --> 01:02:31,980
cover ready yes did they reach out of

1363
01:02:38,870 --> 01:02:34,880
course not ah it's more Emily Dickinson

1364
01:02:42,289 --> 01:02:38,880
they're prepping the audience nothing in

1365
01:02:45,289 --> 01:02:42,299
this game is linear nothing it's level

1366
01:02:47,270 --> 01:02:45,299
upon level upon level because a lot of

1367
01:02:49,730 --> 01:02:47,280
it's been controlled by the so-called

1368
01:02:53,329 --> 01:02:49,740
secret societies and we'll hit one on

1369
01:02:55,130 --> 01:02:53,339
the head the Masons right and I've heard

1370
01:02:57,530 --> 01:02:55,140
you talk about the shamsu horror which

1371
01:03:00,010 --> 01:02:57,540
goes all the way back to Egypt all the

1372
01:03:03,109 --> 01:03:00,020
way back the followers of Horus yes

1373
01:03:04,789 --> 01:03:03,119
yes that's the Curiosity with a lot of

1374
01:03:07,609 --> 01:03:04,799
this stuff with the obsession of

1375
01:03:10,549 --> 01:03:07,619
Egyptian ritual the symbolism the occult

1376
01:03:13,130 --> 01:03:10,559
numbers and all this emphasis you've

1377
01:03:15,710 --> 01:03:13,140
called them magicians in dark Mission

1378
01:03:17,990 --> 01:03:15,720
and it's just just it's a curious thing

1379
01:03:19,730 --> 01:03:18,000
that they have this preoccupation and I

1380
01:03:21,470 --> 01:03:19,740
just wonder I'm not curious it's not

1381
01:03:24,950 --> 01:03:21,480
it's it's about our heritage it's about

1382
01:03:27,950 --> 01:03:24,960
who owns what and who is in charge and

1383
01:03:32,510 --> 01:03:27,960
who was just Shadow who doesn't count

1384
01:03:36,829 --> 01:03:32,520
all right we're looking at DNA lineage

1385
01:03:38,450 --> 01:03:36,839
genetic you know relationships to the

1386
01:03:40,970 --> 01:03:38,460
family out there

1387
01:03:46,069 --> 01:03:40,980
which through history because of weird

1388
01:03:49,370 --> 01:03:46,079
things they are viewed as Gods right I

1389
01:03:50,870 --> 01:03:49,380
think Stargate SG-1 sure which was part

1390
01:03:52,910 --> 01:03:50,880
of the preparation

1391
01:03:55,010 --> 01:03:52,920
why do you think Stargate SG-1 was

1392
01:03:56,990 --> 01:03:55,020
produced with the cooperation of the U.S

1393
01:04:00,230 --> 01:03:57,000
Air Force why do you think that it's

1394
01:04:02,390 --> 01:04:00,240
been rerun on Comet and sci-fi endlessly

1395
01:04:05,210 --> 01:04:02,400
over and over and over again because in

1396
01:04:08,510 --> 01:04:05,220
part that's our ancient history

1397
01:04:11,390 --> 01:04:08,520
and how do you Allah Brookings acclimate

1398
01:04:13,730 --> 01:04:11,400
a population that you know from their

1399
01:04:15,730 --> 01:04:13,740
perspective is dumber than dirt so they

1400
01:04:18,829 --> 01:04:15,740
won't freak out all right remember

1401
01:04:20,750 --> 01:04:18,839
Senator Kennedy lock your doors yeah

1402
01:04:21,770 --> 01:04:20,760
that's our first instinct with the

1403
01:04:24,410 --> 01:04:21,780
unknown

1404
01:04:27,230 --> 01:04:24,420
lock your doors give me a break

1405
01:04:31,210 --> 01:04:27,240
so they've got to have this program over

1406
01:04:34,130 --> 01:04:31,220
decades to leak quietly subtly

1407
01:04:36,430 --> 01:04:34,140
incrementally over and over again more

1408
01:04:38,930 --> 01:04:36,440
and more information more and more

1409
01:04:41,530 --> 01:04:38,940
storytelling more and more cultural

1410
01:04:45,890 --> 01:04:41,540
memes like all these tentball movies

1411
01:04:47,150 --> 01:04:45,900
like Stargate like Star Trek like Star

1412
01:04:49,670 --> 01:04:47,160
Wars

1413
01:04:52,250 --> 01:04:49,680
and now we're at the end game where

1414
01:04:54,349 --> 01:04:52,260
we're in our own modalities we'll be

1415
01:04:57,170 --> 01:04:54,359
able to go to the moon and take close-up

1416
01:04:59,870 --> 01:04:57,180
imagery and blow our minds as to what

1417
01:05:02,210 --> 01:04:59,880
culture was able to do that and that's

1418
01:05:04,430 --> 01:05:02,220
the entree to everything else that's

1419
01:05:07,190 --> 01:05:04,440
going to open up in the solar system and

1420
01:05:10,130 --> 01:05:07,200
again if it's not musk it's going to be

1421
01:05:12,650 --> 01:05:10,140
some other billionaire or some other

1422
01:05:15,230 --> 01:05:12,660
private group that sends a spacecraft

1423
01:05:17,089 --> 01:05:15,240
for the cost of a Mercedes with the

1424
01:05:19,609 --> 01:05:17,099
right filtering now that the South

1425
01:05:21,589 --> 01:05:19,619
Koreans have shown us how to do it and

1426
01:05:25,010 --> 01:05:21,599
so these secrets are not secrets for

1427
01:05:27,309 --> 01:05:25,020
many more months than maybe you can

1428
01:05:30,109 --> 01:05:27,319
count on two hands

1429
01:05:32,390 --> 01:05:30,119
maybe I love it and it's weird that the

1430
01:05:35,569 --> 01:05:32,400
same Egyptian stuff comes up in SpaceX

1431
01:05:36,829 --> 01:05:35,579
too the Falcon rocket is Horus AP is the

1432
01:05:39,950 --> 01:05:36,839
difference I think that's an accident

1433
01:05:42,650 --> 01:05:39,960
not at all not at all as soon as I saw a

1434
01:05:44,990 --> 01:05:42,660
must naming his key rocket Falcon I said

1435
01:05:48,170 --> 01:05:45,000
well of course he's in on it are you

1436
01:05:49,910 --> 01:05:48,180
familiar with the Von Braun novel no I

1437
01:05:53,049 --> 01:05:49,920
don't think so I'm aware of the fake

1438
01:05:56,450 --> 01:05:53,059
Alien Invasion claims that were made

1439
01:05:59,270 --> 01:05:56,460
well I'm very suspicious of all that I

1440
01:06:01,190 --> 01:05:59,280
know I've known Carol for decades oh I

1441
01:06:03,650 --> 01:06:01,200
really wonder whether she and he ever

1442
01:06:06,230 --> 01:06:03,660
had that conversation all right okay

1443
01:06:08,630 --> 01:06:06,240
good to know good to know just telling

1444
01:06:11,870 --> 01:06:08,640
you that's an inside scoop

1445
01:06:13,609 --> 01:06:11,880
Carol and I go way way back and she will

1446
01:06:16,789 --> 01:06:13,619
not have a current conversation about

1447
01:06:18,349 --> 01:06:16,799
any of this on my show why not sounds

1448
01:06:20,569 --> 01:06:18,359
like she doesn't want to be challenged

1449
01:06:21,710 --> 01:06:20,579
on that story but a lot of people are

1450
01:06:23,150 --> 01:06:21,720
talking about how the things we

1451
01:06:25,789 --> 01:06:23,160
discussed at the beginning of the show

1452
01:06:27,890 --> 01:06:25,799
are seed in the ground for exactly that

1453
01:06:30,770 --> 01:06:27,900
narrative let me go back to Von Braun

1454
01:06:33,349 --> 01:06:30,780
okay you know who Von Braun is sure yes

1455
01:06:36,589 --> 01:06:33,359
if everybody doesn't Von Braun was a

1456
01:06:39,349 --> 01:06:36,599
Nazi rocket engineer who basically

1457
01:06:42,470 --> 01:06:39,359
pioneered the German rocket Technologies

1458
01:06:45,010 --> 01:06:42,480
prior to World War II Hitler reached out

1459
01:06:47,450 --> 01:06:45,020
through his minions and basically

1460
01:06:49,370 --> 01:06:47,460
conscripted him and said you work for

1461
01:06:51,410 --> 01:06:49,380
the Army you worked for us and you're

1462
01:06:53,210 --> 01:06:51,420
going to develop super weapons so we can

1463
01:06:55,130 --> 01:06:53,220
take over the world

1464
01:06:57,650 --> 01:06:55,140
Von Braun really wanted to do space

1465
01:07:00,109 --> 01:06:57,660
flight but he had to make this horrible

1466
01:07:02,770 --> 01:07:00,119
deal with the devil which he did and

1467
01:07:05,990 --> 01:07:02,780
that's a whole other long program

1468
01:07:09,170 --> 01:07:06,000
during the end of the war during the

1469
01:07:12,289 --> 01:07:09,180
1940s around 45.

1470
01:07:14,510 --> 01:07:12,299
Werner Von Braun based on the technology

1471
01:07:16,309 --> 01:07:14,520
that he developed in terms of space

1472
01:07:18,770 --> 01:07:16,319
flight you know being able to launch

1473
01:07:22,549 --> 01:07:18,780
satellites envisioning space stations

1474
01:07:25,190 --> 01:07:22,559
all of that he wrote a novel

1475
01:07:28,130 --> 01:07:25,200
a fictional novel were you aware of that

1476
01:07:30,289 --> 01:07:28,140
vaguely remind us what it was about

1477
01:07:32,510 --> 01:07:30,299
it's about a group of Engineers it's

1478
01:07:35,270 --> 01:07:32,520
basically the story of his life and his

1479
01:07:37,970 --> 01:07:35,280
German rocket scientist companions

1480
01:07:40,309 --> 01:07:37,980
accepted extrapolates to the Future when

1481
01:07:42,770 --> 01:07:40,319
with the Aegis of the US government they

1482
01:07:45,289 --> 01:07:42,780
get the funding to actually take a fleet

1483
01:07:46,370 --> 01:07:45,299
of rocket ships to Mars and set up a

1484
01:07:48,470 --> 01:07:46,380
colony

1485
01:07:50,750 --> 01:07:48,480
like projecting you know like like he

1486
01:07:53,089 --> 01:07:50,760
did in the Collier series and he did in

1487
01:07:56,329 --> 01:07:53,099
the books that came out in the 1950s

1488
01:07:58,970 --> 01:07:56,339
illustrated by Chesley bonstell and like

1489
01:08:01,970 --> 01:07:58,980
he did with Disney remember the work he

1490
01:08:04,069 --> 01:08:01,980
did with Disney Walt Disney yes we laid

1491
01:08:07,130 --> 01:08:04,079
out trips to the moon for men and women

1492
01:08:10,670 --> 01:08:07,140
and trips to Mars the Mars Expedition

1493
01:08:13,010 --> 01:08:10,680
with those stunning paintings by my old

1494
01:08:15,109 --> 01:08:13,020
friend and colleague Chesley bonstell

1495
01:08:17,169 --> 01:08:15,119
Yes again seating things and

1496
01:08:20,689 --> 01:08:17,179
entertainment exactly like Brookings

1497
01:08:23,510 --> 01:08:20,699
preparing the runway for when it goes

1498
01:08:26,090 --> 01:08:23,520
from fiction to being real that's what

1499
01:08:28,550 --> 01:08:26,100
Brookings recommended people have to be

1500
01:08:31,550 --> 01:08:28,560
prepared so all of this stuff has been

1501
01:08:34,789 --> 01:08:31,560
preparation in this model

1502
01:08:38,689 --> 01:08:34,799
in the novel he talks about the

1503
01:08:41,090 --> 01:08:38,699
political structure of the colony on

1504
01:08:44,090 --> 01:08:41,100
Mars you know how it would be kind of

1505
01:08:45,890 --> 01:08:44,100
like a bicameral legislature there'll be

1506
01:08:48,470 --> 01:08:45,900
an executive basically patterning it

1507
01:08:51,590 --> 01:08:48,480
after the U.S government right

1508
01:08:56,150 --> 01:08:51,600
um what did he call the chief executive

1509
01:08:59,150 --> 01:08:56,160
in the novel not a president okay

1510
01:09:03,829 --> 01:08:59,160
what did he call him instead I don't

1511
01:09:10,249 --> 01:09:07,490
you think any of this is accidental

1512
01:09:13,550 --> 01:09:10,259
no no no I don't

1513
01:09:14,650 --> 01:09:13,560
and you heard it here first on Greg's

1514
01:09:18,169 --> 01:09:14,660
show everybody

1515
01:09:20,150 --> 01:09:18,179
I appreciate that I appreciate that so

1516
01:09:22,249 --> 01:09:20,160
just before I let you go in the updated

1517
01:09:25,669 --> 01:09:22,259
version of dark Mission you and Mike

1518
01:09:26,930 --> 01:09:25,679
Barra both say that dark mission 2 is

1519
01:09:28,550 --> 01:09:26,940
going to be coming out soon what

1520
01:09:31,669 --> 01:09:28,560
happened there

1521
01:09:33,110 --> 01:09:31,679
well we kind of drifted apart Mike's not

1522
01:09:36,110 --> 01:09:33,120
the right guy to do this with I'm going

1523
01:09:38,570 --> 01:09:36,120
to do this by myself and we know so much

1524
01:09:40,729 --> 01:09:38,580
more now than we know then that's why

1525
01:09:42,709 --> 01:09:40,739
I've kind of held off I mean again the

1526
01:09:45,349 --> 01:09:42,719
South Korean breakthrough is stunning

1527
01:09:48,229 --> 01:09:45,359
because it allows me to democratize this

1528
01:09:50,209 --> 01:09:48,239
to anybody listening that wants to do a

1529
01:09:52,849 --> 01:09:50,219
little homework and actually pay

1530
01:09:54,169 --> 01:09:52,859
attention and do it correctly okay and

1531
01:09:55,850 --> 01:09:54,179
if they want to help you in that we're

1532
01:09:58,310 --> 01:09:55,860
talking to a bunch of people right now

1533
01:10:00,890 --> 01:09:58,320
if you want to democratize this what can

1534
01:10:02,510 --> 01:10:00,900
what can they do to maybe help out start

1535
01:10:04,790 --> 01:10:02,520
by coming to the other side of midnight

1536
01:10:06,890 --> 01:10:04,800
listening and participating become a

1537
01:10:09,050 --> 01:10:06,900
member because we need the funding we

1538
01:10:11,870 --> 01:10:09,060
need subscriptions to keep this research

1539
01:10:14,270 --> 01:10:11,880
going and then contact me through the

1540
01:10:16,910 --> 01:10:14,280
contact info on the left-hand side of

1541
01:10:20,270 --> 01:10:16,920
the computer screen and I will ascertain

1542
01:10:22,370 --> 01:10:20,280
your level of expertise if you're a pro

1543
01:10:25,010 --> 01:10:22,380
photographer whatever it'll be pretty

1544
01:10:27,290 --> 01:10:25,020
trivial if you're not you can learn this

1545
01:10:30,169 --> 01:10:27,300
is not complicated everybody's taking

1546
01:10:32,149 --> 01:10:30,179
selfies the same same technology can

1547
01:10:35,149 --> 01:10:32,159
blow the doors off on what they've been

1548
01:10:38,750 --> 01:10:35,159
hiding on the moon I love it yes Club

1549
01:10:41,450 --> 01:10:38,760
19.5 is waiting for you people yep get

1550
01:10:43,130 --> 01:10:41,460
involved and that's not an accident 19.5

1551
01:10:45,590 --> 01:10:43,140
is the key number in the

1552
01:10:47,570 --> 01:10:45,600
hyperdimensional physics well yes Sirius

1553
01:10:50,030 --> 01:10:47,580
was hovering over the Apollo 11 Landing

1554
01:10:53,410 --> 01:10:50,040
site at precisely 19.5 degrees over the

1555
01:10:56,270 --> 01:10:53,420
lunar Horizon you got it I know I know

1556
01:10:59,090 --> 01:10:56,280
uh man well this has just been a lot of

1557
01:11:00,830 --> 01:10:59,100
fun a real dream come true for me you're

1558
01:11:03,050 --> 01:11:00,840
a legend it's an honor to have some of

1559
01:11:04,430 --> 01:11:03,060
your time give them the links one more

1560
01:11:07,510 --> 01:11:04,440
time you got the other side of

1561
01:11:09,530 --> 01:11:07,520
midnight.com and also

1562
01:11:11,870 --> 01:11:09,540
enterprisemissions.com Enterprise

1563
01:11:13,189 --> 01:11:11,880
missions with an S because someone stole

1564
01:11:13,850 --> 01:11:13,199
Enterprise Mission

1565
01:11:16,610 --> 01:11:13,860
um

1566
01:11:19,070 --> 01:11:16,620
we had some opposition when Robin died

1567
01:11:20,930 --> 01:11:19,080
and they snuck in there so it's it

1568
01:11:23,209 --> 01:11:20,940
actually is more truthful because it's

1569
01:11:24,850 --> 01:11:23,219
more than one Mission so it's the

1570
01:11:28,130 --> 01:11:24,860
Enterprise

1571
01:11:31,070 --> 01:11:28,140
missionsploral.com awesome I love it

1572
01:11:33,350 --> 01:11:31,080
people follow up and definitely send me

1573
01:11:35,270 --> 01:11:33,360
some of those images and let's get that

1574
01:11:36,649 --> 01:11:35,280
bed on the table but keep doing what you

1575
01:11:38,770 --> 01:11:36,659
do and take care

1576
01:11:41,990 --> 01:11:38,780
I have to think of something suitable

1577
01:11:44,870 --> 01:11:42,000
something something uniquely appropriate

1578
01:11:47,450 --> 01:11:44,880
I like it okay all right have a good one

1579
01:11:50,870 --> 01:11:47,460
man thank you so much say hi to Ron and

1580
01:11:53,390 --> 01:11:50,880
Clyde I will enjoy your evening you too

1581
01:11:57,290 --> 01:11:53,400
a headboard Factor one

1582
01:12:02,689 --> 01:12:00,110
and another one bites the dust super

1583
01:12:05,810 --> 01:12:02,699
happy today to say that I've added one

1584
01:12:08,330 --> 01:12:05,820
more classic conspiracy Legend to my

1585
01:12:11,030 --> 01:12:08,340
mantle of folks I really did come of age

1586
01:12:12,890 --> 01:12:11,040
listening to and it's surreal to have

1587
01:12:15,770 --> 01:12:12,900
built a platform that actually offers

1588
01:12:18,050 --> 01:12:15,780
them something in 2023

1589
01:12:20,209 --> 01:12:18,060
it did take me a good while to sort of

1590
01:12:22,669 --> 01:12:20,219
get a rhythm going with Richard he's an

1591
01:12:24,350 --> 01:12:22,679
old school guy he comes with things that

1592
01:12:26,990 --> 01:12:24,360
he wants to get to

1593
01:12:28,850 --> 01:12:27,000
but I also had some specific themes that

1594
01:12:31,310 --> 01:12:28,860
I wanted to fold in because it's such a

1595
01:12:33,290 --> 01:12:31,320
unique opportunity for me as well

1596
01:12:36,110 --> 01:12:33,300
so it took almost the whole first hour

1597
01:12:37,729 --> 01:12:36,120
to really dial in what I thought was a

1598
01:12:39,890 --> 01:12:37,739
good back and forth

1599
01:12:41,630 --> 01:12:39,900
but I hear him taking calls and getting

1600
01:12:43,850 --> 01:12:41,640
into debates on the other side of

1601
01:12:45,770 --> 01:12:43,860
midnight all the time so he's got a

1602
01:12:48,770 --> 01:12:45,780
thick skin and he's confident in his

1603
01:12:50,510 --> 01:12:48,780
positions and I just enjoy that vibe

1604
01:12:53,330 --> 01:12:50,520
and we had a little bit of debate in

1605
01:12:55,310 --> 01:12:53,340
there I know Richard is super confident

1606
01:12:58,010 --> 01:12:55,320
in the Apollo missions and their

1607
01:13:00,290 --> 01:12:58,020
credibility he's not going to budge on

1608
01:13:02,209 --> 01:13:00,300
that but I thought coming from the

1609
01:13:04,370 --> 01:13:02,219
ritual perspective and giving a quick

1610
01:13:06,229 --> 01:13:04,380
list of reasons I think they were staged

1611
01:13:08,090 --> 01:13:06,239
and asking about the possibility that it

1612
01:13:10,610 --> 01:13:08,100
was theater for the mind

1613
01:13:12,290 --> 01:13:10,620
was the right way to ask but I

1614
01:13:14,209 --> 01:13:12,300
definitely didn't just want this to

1615
01:13:15,890 --> 01:13:14,219
devolve into a moon landing debate

1616
01:13:18,229 --> 01:13:15,900
because that's not a good use of the

1617
01:13:20,330 --> 01:13:18,239
time that I had with him

1618
01:13:22,490 --> 01:13:20,340
if we're not going to

1619
01:13:24,410 --> 01:13:22,500
mainly meet people where they are to

1620
01:13:26,090 --> 01:13:24,420
give their perspective then I probably

1621
01:13:28,490 --> 01:13:26,100
shouldn't be getting them on that's sort

1622
01:13:31,010 --> 01:13:28,500
of my attitude about it and it's bad

1623
01:13:33,410 --> 01:13:31,020
form to highlight my differences of

1624
01:13:34,850 --> 01:13:33,420
opinion in wrap-ups when the guest isn't

1625
01:13:37,250 --> 01:13:34,860
here so

1626
01:13:38,810 --> 01:13:37,260
I just want to appreciate Richard for

1627
01:13:39,770 --> 01:13:38,820
who he is and what he brings to the

1628
01:13:42,050 --> 01:13:39,780
table

1629
01:13:44,149 --> 01:13:42,060
and as my editor said it was fun to hear

1630
01:13:46,070 --> 01:13:44,159
someone actually defending the Apollo

1631
01:13:48,770 --> 01:13:46,080
missions for once

1632
01:13:50,209 --> 01:13:48,780
plus I do think Richard is right when he

1633
01:13:52,790 --> 01:13:50,219
says that

1634
01:13:55,370 --> 01:13:52,800
going through the field of ufology just

1635
01:13:58,550 --> 01:13:55,380
led him to think it all smells fishy too

1636
01:14:01,010 --> 01:13:58,560
much misdirection disinformation psyops

1637
01:14:02,450 --> 01:14:01,020
and less than genuine Folks muddying up

1638
01:14:04,610 --> 01:14:02,460
those Waters

1639
01:14:07,250 --> 01:14:04,620
and I've always been intrigued by

1640
01:14:09,350 --> 01:14:07,260
structures on the moon and Mars

1641
01:14:10,310 --> 01:14:09,360
old ruins they don't want us to know

1642
01:14:12,530 --> 01:14:10,320
about

1643
01:14:13,850 --> 01:14:12,540
also I got to give him props for being a

1644
01:14:16,010 --> 01:14:13,860
man of his word because it's really

1645
01:14:17,270 --> 01:14:16,020
common in these interviews for a guest

1646
01:14:19,070 --> 01:14:17,280
to say

1647
01:14:22,130 --> 01:14:19,080
oh I'm gonna send you that when we're

1648
01:14:24,169 --> 01:14:22,140
done and they almost never do

1649
01:14:26,689 --> 01:14:24,179
well Richard actually did send me the

1650
01:14:30,470 --> 01:14:26,699
stuff from the south Koreans and

1651
01:14:33,590 --> 01:14:30,480
I used the main side-by-side image as

1652
01:14:35,510 --> 01:14:33,600
the cover art for this episode

1653
01:14:37,669 --> 01:14:35,520
because the formatting it might be a

1654
01:14:39,290 --> 01:14:37,679
little small but you have to admit it's

1655
01:14:40,729 --> 01:14:39,300
pretty strange you can also see it in

1656
01:14:42,470 --> 01:14:40,739
the show notes

1657
01:14:45,709 --> 01:14:42,480
for the people who think all space

1658
01:14:48,410 --> 01:14:45,719
agency images are CGI

1659
01:14:50,930 --> 01:14:48,420
what would be the point of painting this

1660
01:14:52,970 --> 01:14:50,940
weird ring around the Moon

1661
01:14:55,729 --> 01:14:52,980
in this case I think it's more likely

1662
01:14:57,770 --> 01:14:55,739
that Richard is right and NASA has been

1663
01:15:01,430 --> 01:14:57,780
trying to present a certain perspective

1664
01:15:03,530 --> 01:15:01,440
of what's out there and now from someone

1665
01:15:06,229 --> 01:15:03,540
else we're seeing added detail that

1666
01:15:08,450 --> 01:15:06,239
doesn't really fit that model at all and

1667
01:15:10,850 --> 01:15:08,460
likely speaks to a radically different

1668
01:15:13,189 --> 01:15:10,860
and more advanced interplanetary past

1669
01:15:15,530 --> 01:15:13,199
I'm into it

1670
01:15:17,229 --> 01:15:15,540
but my favorite thing about Richard has

1671
01:15:20,930 --> 01:15:17,239
always been that I heard him

1672
01:15:23,209 --> 01:15:20,940
deconstructing the names times and dates

1673
01:15:25,790 --> 01:15:23,219
of NASA missions from a symbolic and

1674
01:15:30,070 --> 01:15:25,800
ritualistic perspective first

1675
01:15:33,410 --> 01:15:30,080
even going so far as to say that certain

1676
01:15:34,689 --> 01:15:33,420
important celestial bodies were at very

1677
01:15:37,850 --> 01:15:34,699
specific

1678
01:15:40,250 --> 01:15:37,860
symbolic angles on the horizon when Buzz

1679
01:15:42,590 --> 01:15:40,260
Aldrin apparently did do this Masonic

1680
01:15:44,630 --> 01:15:42,600
ritual during his moon mission

1681
01:15:47,209 --> 01:15:44,640
again I don't know what literally

1682
01:15:50,470 --> 01:15:47,219
happened and what has been

1683
01:15:53,630 --> 01:15:50,480
a construct but when you really get into

1684
01:15:56,450 --> 01:15:53,640
Consciousness and the impact of theaters

1685
01:15:59,149 --> 01:15:56,460
of the Mind the importance of was it or

1686
01:16:00,530 --> 01:15:59,159
wasn't it does start to break down

1687
01:16:03,410 --> 01:16:00,540
but we don't have to solve everything

1688
01:16:06,169 --> 01:16:03,420
sometimes we can just have a little fun

1689
01:16:08,270 --> 01:16:06,179
but those ritualistic elements are

1690
01:16:10,130 --> 01:16:08,280
definitely things he put in my head from

1691
01:16:11,990 --> 01:16:10,140
old Coast to Coast AM shows and then

1692
01:16:13,970 --> 01:16:12,000
people like Chris Knowles have obviously

1693
01:16:15,530 --> 01:16:13,980
completely blown the top off

1694
01:16:16,669 --> 01:16:15,540
but Richard deserves a lot of credit

1695
01:16:18,590 --> 01:16:16,679
there

1696
01:16:20,149 --> 01:16:18,600
and it is the stuff I wanted to Pepper

1697
01:16:22,250 --> 01:16:20,159
in the most

1698
01:16:23,810 --> 01:16:22,260
but it just wasn't top of mind for him

1699
01:16:26,510 --> 01:16:23,820
and that's fine

1700
01:16:28,790 --> 01:16:26,520
you know how I get I really do try to

1701
01:16:30,290 --> 01:16:28,800
structure these interviews and I'm

1702
01:16:32,209 --> 01:16:30,300
watching the time and I'm like well

1703
01:16:34,070 --> 01:16:32,219
we're 30 minutes in we're 40 minutes in

1704
01:16:36,290 --> 01:16:34,080
I want to hit this point and this point

1705
01:16:39,649 --> 01:16:36,300
and we're not going to get there if I

1706
01:16:43,010 --> 01:16:41,689
and sometimes it just goes how it goes

1707
01:16:45,169 --> 01:16:43,020
it was a lot of fun it's just

1708
01:16:47,689 --> 01:16:45,179
Bittersweet that the plush show is

1709
01:16:49,850 --> 01:16:47,699
paywalled obviously it's how we do

1710
01:16:51,649 --> 01:16:49,860
things and it's how I get paid but I

1711
01:16:54,470 --> 01:16:51,659
just thought it was a really enjoyable

1712
01:16:56,689 --> 01:16:54,480
and entertaining second half and I just

1713
01:16:59,149 --> 01:16:56,699
wish more people were gonna hear it

1714
01:17:02,030 --> 01:16:59,159
because we did find a fun back and forth

1715
01:17:04,550 --> 01:17:02,040
Rhythm and I do hope we can do it again

1716
01:17:07,370 --> 01:17:04,560
somewhere in there halfway through I

1717
01:17:09,470 --> 01:17:07,380
realized my really long way of asking

1718
01:17:11,030 --> 01:17:09,480
questions and setting things up wasn't

1719
01:17:12,470 --> 01:17:11,040
going to work

1720
01:17:14,570 --> 01:17:12,480
but since we're talking about it the

1721
01:17:16,189 --> 01:17:14,580
Plus show topics were

1722
01:17:19,729 --> 01:17:16,199
getting into that question of how

1723
01:17:21,410 --> 01:17:19,739
Richard handles Apollo hoax criticisms

1724
01:17:24,470 --> 01:17:21,420
we talked about

1725
01:17:26,270 --> 01:17:24,480
why the astronauts were brainwashed and

1726
01:17:29,990 --> 01:17:26,280
mind controlled

1727
01:17:31,870 --> 01:17:30,000
which Richard is pretty confident in we

1728
01:17:34,430 --> 01:17:31,880
talked about the hunt for ancient

1729
01:17:36,709 --> 01:17:34,440
extraterrestrial libraries to

1730
01:17:39,290 --> 01:17:36,719
reconstruct the human story probably my

1731
01:17:42,590 --> 01:17:39,300
favorite aspect of the whole show it

1732
01:17:44,270 --> 01:17:42,600
also fed into ruins in the Antarctic

1733
01:17:46,610 --> 01:17:44,280
another great thing to hear him talk

1734
01:17:48,770 --> 01:17:46,620
about we got into why Edgar Mitchell was

1735
01:17:52,209 --> 01:17:48,780
so obsessed with Consciousness we

1736
01:17:54,470 --> 01:17:52,219
decoded some other recent NASA activity

1737
01:17:56,990 --> 01:17:54,480
osiris-rex and bennu

1738
01:17:59,750 --> 01:17:57,000
we talked about that legendary face on

1739
01:18:01,910 --> 01:17:59,760
Mars and the Jack Kirby comic that came

1740
01:18:04,189 --> 01:18:01,920
out years earlier I mean he broke that

1741
01:18:05,930 --> 01:18:04,199
down really well and we also talked

1742
01:18:07,850 --> 01:18:05,940
about Richard's work with John

1743
01:18:10,370 --> 01:18:07,860
Brandenburg and his thoughts on the

1744
01:18:12,290 --> 01:18:10,380
Martian nukes hypothesis

1745
01:18:14,689 --> 01:18:12,300
so when I got in there and fired off

1746
01:18:16,669 --> 01:18:14,699
faster questions we covered a lot more

1747
01:18:18,410 --> 01:18:16,679
diverse ground sign up for plus if

1748
01:18:20,570 --> 01:18:18,420
you're intrigued at all

1749
01:18:22,669 --> 01:18:20,580
remember you can start with a seven day

1750
01:18:25,310 --> 01:18:22,679
free trial and download all the great

1751
01:18:26,930 --> 01:18:25,320
shows I've done lately Schwab analog

1752
01:18:29,050 --> 01:18:26,940
Richard

1753
01:18:31,970 --> 01:18:29,060
and then just cancel

1754
01:18:34,310 --> 01:18:31,980
I don't want you to do that exactly but

1755
01:18:36,470 --> 01:18:34,320
I am doing fine and I would like more

1756
01:18:38,149 --> 01:18:36,480
people to hear these shows in full when

1757
01:18:40,070 --> 01:18:38,159
it comes down to it

1758
01:18:42,590 --> 01:18:40,080
and I do hope some of you let Richard

1759
01:18:44,570 --> 01:18:42,600
know that this was appreciated so we can

1760
01:18:47,330 --> 01:18:44,580
do it again tune in to the other side of

1761
01:18:49,550 --> 01:18:47,340
midnight he takes calls ask him about

1762
01:18:51,050 --> 01:18:49,560
things that were said here today I know

1763
01:18:53,570 --> 01:18:51,060
he's game for it

1764
01:18:55,729 --> 01:18:53,580
on a personal level I pretty much rolled

1765
01:18:58,370 --> 01:18:55,739
in from Mount Shasta crammed for this

1766
01:19:00,350 --> 01:18:58,380
interview re-read dark Mission scrambled

1767
01:19:02,990 --> 01:19:00,360
to get the Jeff Harmon show out to you

1768
01:19:05,030 --> 01:19:03,000
and then I got on a plane to Florida

1769
01:19:06,770 --> 01:19:05,040
so now I'm back and scrambling to get

1770
01:19:09,470 --> 01:19:06,780
this out to you before it's largely

1771
01:19:11,630 --> 01:19:09,480
irrelevant and it actually does seem

1772
01:19:13,550 --> 01:19:11,640
like when it comes to the main thing we

1773
01:19:15,770 --> 01:19:13,560
talked about in the beginning they never

1774
01:19:17,990 --> 01:19:15,780
really did give us a good answer about

1775
01:19:19,970 --> 01:19:18,000
these things they shot down

1776
01:19:21,709 --> 01:19:19,980
I think the official story is just that

1777
01:19:23,270 --> 01:19:21,719
they never found them and then they

1778
01:19:26,510 --> 01:19:23,280
stopped looking

1779
01:19:29,810 --> 01:19:26,520
Apparently one was a ham radio operator

1780
01:19:32,450 --> 01:19:29,820
balloon according to No Agenda and they

1781
01:19:35,870 --> 01:19:32,460
had a listener who is in the industry

1782
01:19:38,510 --> 01:19:35,880
and said it was just the fine-tuning and

1783
01:19:41,149 --> 01:19:38,520
calibration of military radar that had

1784
01:19:43,010 --> 01:19:41,159
them picking up more objects

1785
01:19:45,530 --> 01:19:43,020
but I question that it doesn't really

1786
01:19:48,050 --> 01:19:45,540
make a lot of sense because these kind

1787
01:19:50,030 --> 01:19:48,060
of balloons and ham radio stuff these

1788
01:19:51,470 --> 01:19:50,040
things have been around a lot longer

1789
01:19:54,830 --> 01:19:51,480
than me even

1790
01:19:57,110 --> 01:19:54,840
it's not new tech so when we have this

1791
01:19:59,570 --> 01:19:57,120
sudden dust up it just seems like it's a

1792
01:20:02,209 --> 01:19:59,580
little deeper of a story in my opinion

1793
01:20:04,550 --> 01:20:02,219
but still probably not aliens and

1794
01:20:06,890 --> 01:20:04,560
largely used as a distraction away from

1795
01:20:09,050 --> 01:20:06,900
so many other things like this crazy

1796
01:20:11,450 --> 01:20:09,060
Ohio disaster

1797
01:20:13,790 --> 01:20:11,460
I just heard they're taking tens of

1798
01:20:17,570 --> 01:20:13,800
thousands of contaminated gallons of

1799
01:20:20,510 --> 01:20:17,580
water and much of the contaminated soil

1800
01:20:23,570 --> 01:20:20,520
and they're shipping it to towns in

1801
01:20:25,189 --> 01:20:23,580
Texas and Michigan because

1802
01:20:26,750 --> 01:20:25,199
when your disaster didn't do enough

1803
01:20:29,570 --> 01:20:26,760
damage just

1804
01:20:31,610 --> 01:20:29,580
spread it all around I suppose

1805
01:20:33,770 --> 01:20:31,620
another thing is that I do hope we get

1806
01:20:35,450 --> 01:20:33,780
that bet established he brought up the

1807
01:20:37,610 --> 01:20:35,460
prospect of a bet when we were talking

1808
01:20:39,590 --> 01:20:37,620
about musk taking nine people to the

1809
01:20:41,990 --> 01:20:39,600
moon and revealing all

1810
01:20:44,390 --> 01:20:42,000
but the problem is that it is a hard bet

1811
01:20:46,669 --> 01:20:44,400
to make because if they do carry out

1812
01:20:48,830 --> 01:20:46,679
that mission I'm probably going to say

1813
01:20:50,750 --> 01:20:48,840
that it looked like it was stagecraft

1814
01:20:53,149 --> 01:20:50,760
and Richard is going to say see they did

1815
01:20:55,610 --> 01:20:53,159
it just like I said they would and we

1816
01:20:58,310 --> 01:20:55,620
would probably be at an impasse

1817
01:21:01,010 --> 01:20:58,320
but betting is deep in my veins I do

1818
01:21:01,970 --> 01:21:01,020
take it seriously and I am a man of my

1819
01:21:04,430 --> 01:21:01,980
word

1820
01:21:06,709 --> 01:21:04,440
I would never try to weasel out of it

1821
01:21:08,930 --> 01:21:06,719
but I would be looking at that kind of

1822
01:21:10,490 --> 01:21:08,940
stuff very critically

1823
01:21:12,830 --> 01:21:10,500
and at the end of the day I just think

1824
01:21:14,689 --> 01:21:12,840
we wouldn't agree but I got all jazzed

1825
01:21:16,250 --> 01:21:14,699
up when he brought the idea of a bet

1826
01:21:18,290 --> 01:21:16,260
into play

1827
01:21:20,330 --> 01:21:18,300
I certainly agree with Richard when he

1828
01:21:22,610 --> 01:21:20,340
says things like nothing in this game is

1829
01:21:23,810 --> 01:21:22,620
linear it's levels upon levels upon

1830
01:21:26,030 --> 01:21:23,820
levels

1831
01:21:28,130 --> 01:21:26,040
and when we did get into the Antarctica

1832
01:21:31,250 --> 01:21:28,140
stuff in the plush show it is a valid

1833
01:21:33,770 --> 01:21:31,260
question to ask well why even send Neil

1834
01:21:36,470 --> 01:21:33,780
Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin to Antarctica

1835
01:21:37,970 --> 01:21:36,480
to look at something as we know they did

1836
01:21:39,410 --> 01:21:37,980
if you look it up you can find that

1837
01:21:41,689 --> 01:21:39,420
apparently both of them went down there

1838
01:21:44,149 --> 01:21:41,699
Buzz Aldrin had to be medically

1839
01:21:46,490 --> 01:21:44,159
airlifted out he's an old man

1840
01:21:49,430 --> 01:21:46,500
but if during the Apollo missions all

1841
01:21:51,470 --> 01:21:49,440
you really did is simulate something and

1842
01:21:53,090 --> 01:21:51,480
spin these guys around in a chamber to

1843
01:21:54,530 --> 01:21:53,100
make them feel like they did something

1844
01:21:56,689 --> 01:21:54,540
special

1845
01:21:59,390 --> 01:21:56,699
then it doesn't seem like their opinions

1846
01:22:00,649 --> 01:21:59,400
on anything would really be all that

1847
01:22:03,050 --> 01:22:00,659
important

1848
01:22:05,090 --> 01:22:03,060
but if the Apollo missions were genuine

1849
01:22:07,850 --> 01:22:05,100
and they really saw something crazy up

1850
01:22:09,530 --> 01:22:07,860
there sending them down to Antarctica

1851
01:22:12,590 --> 01:22:09,540
does make you think they were being

1852
01:22:15,530 --> 01:22:12,600
asked hey does this thing here look like

1853
01:22:17,689 --> 01:22:15,540
the stuff you saw up there

1854
01:22:19,370 --> 01:22:17,699
and that's interesting

1855
01:22:22,550 --> 01:22:19,380
I also hope you're ready for the big

1856
01:22:24,770 --> 01:22:22,560
revealing at the 2024 eclipse and if you

1857
01:22:26,870 --> 01:22:24,780
really look at the South Korean moon

1858
01:22:29,390 --> 01:22:26,880
mission photo it certainly is a curious

1859
01:22:32,630 --> 01:22:29,400
thing that jives well with what Richard

1860
01:22:34,910 --> 01:22:32,640
has been saying for over two decades

1861
01:22:35,810 --> 01:22:34,920
maybe we are in the end game as he put

1862
01:22:38,209 --> 01:22:35,820
it

1863
01:22:40,130 --> 01:22:38,219
in higher side news the auction is still

1864
01:22:42,229 --> 01:22:40,140
going on probably going to go longer

1865
01:22:43,910 --> 01:22:42,239
than expected because listing them and

1866
01:22:45,830 --> 01:22:43,920
then getting them in the mail in a

1867
01:22:48,530 --> 01:22:45,840
timely manner has not been the smoothest

1868
01:22:50,570 --> 01:22:48,540
process but I'm done traveling now I got

1869
01:22:51,410 --> 01:22:50,580
nothing to do but stuff envelopes and

1870
01:22:53,750 --> 01:22:51,420
pack

1871
01:22:55,790 --> 01:22:53,760
I might even just stop after a few more

1872
01:22:57,229 --> 01:22:55,800
rounds and do this again in a couple of

1873
01:22:58,970 --> 01:22:57,239
years

1874
01:23:01,850 --> 01:22:58,980
because from the dashboard I have it

1875
01:23:05,510 --> 01:23:01,860
looks like I got exactly 50 active

1876
01:23:08,270 --> 01:23:05,520
auctions and 27 have bids so plenty of

1877
01:23:10,070 --> 01:23:08,280
available ones and maybe I'm doing too

1878
01:23:11,330 --> 01:23:10,080
many at once because it is a lot to

1879
01:23:13,430 --> 01:23:11,340
scroll through

1880
01:23:15,649 --> 01:23:13,440
although the process has certainly been

1881
01:23:18,110 --> 01:23:15,659
helpful I mean it's completely paid for

1882
01:23:19,189 --> 01:23:18,120
the Pod rental and transfer so I'm not

1883
01:23:21,830 --> 01:23:19,199
complaining

1884
01:23:23,689 --> 01:23:21,840
but also some of these I'm nostalgic for

1885
01:23:24,709 --> 01:23:23,699
and I want to keep for myself to be

1886
01:23:26,570 --> 01:23:24,719
honest

1887
01:23:28,189 --> 01:23:26,580
anyway let's look at the Meetup calendar

1888
01:23:30,890 --> 01:23:28,199
as well

1889
01:23:33,770 --> 01:23:30,900
it looks like March 4th we got one in

1890
01:23:34,970 --> 01:23:33,780
Sedona Arizona March 10th Scottsville

1891
01:23:38,810 --> 01:23:34,980
New York

1892
01:23:42,169 --> 01:23:38,820
March 11th Spooner Wisconsin also March

1893
01:23:43,729 --> 01:23:42,179
11th it's anichten British Columbia

1894
01:23:46,550 --> 01:23:43,739
Canada

1895
01:23:48,290 --> 01:23:46,560
it's a meet up on Vancouver Island at

1896
01:23:50,090 --> 01:23:48,300
Island View Beach maybe I just should

1897
01:23:53,870 --> 01:23:50,100
have said that a lot easier to pronounce

1898
01:23:59,510 --> 01:23:53,880
then on March 18th a Harrisburg Oregon

1899
01:24:04,070 --> 01:23:59,520
Meetup March 22nd the Arroyo Seco Meetup

1900
01:24:06,770 --> 01:24:04,080
and March 23rd the Cerro De La Oya New

1901
01:24:10,010 --> 01:24:06,780
Mexico Meetup that is actually an antler

1902
01:24:11,390 --> 01:24:10,020
hunt camp out on pot Mountain so fun

1903
01:24:13,790 --> 01:24:11,400
stuff people are getting pretty creative

1904
01:24:15,410 --> 01:24:13,800
with the calendar I like it

1905
01:24:17,689 --> 01:24:15,420
and speaking of the calendar it was

1906
01:24:19,850 --> 01:24:17,699
Gordon who pointed out that hosts were

1907
01:24:21,649 --> 01:24:19,860
not getting email notifications when a

1908
01:24:24,530 --> 01:24:21,659
person would RSVP and that's probably

1909
01:24:26,810 --> 01:24:24,540
not the best system so we fixed that

1910
01:24:28,790 --> 01:24:26,820
it was set so that the page for each

1911
01:24:31,669 --> 01:24:28,800
event would have a counter but it's

1912
01:24:33,290 --> 01:24:31,679
better that a host gets emails we want

1913
01:24:35,570 --> 01:24:33,300
them to get a sense of how many people

1914
01:24:37,250 --> 01:24:35,580
are coming so I think that makes the

1915
01:24:39,169 --> 01:24:37,260
experience of putting an event on the

1916
01:24:41,270 --> 01:24:39,179
calendar a little better

1917
01:24:43,430 --> 01:24:41,280
but I love it use it and have some fun

1918
01:24:45,110 --> 01:24:43,440
no risk all reward

1919
01:24:46,970 --> 01:24:45,120
and we will certainly have a couple when

1920
01:24:49,250 --> 01:24:46,980
I get down to Florida

1921
01:24:51,290 --> 01:24:49,260
but that's pretty much all she wrote big

1922
01:24:53,149 --> 01:24:51,300
thanks again to Richard check out the

1923
01:24:55,070 --> 01:24:53,159
added images in the show notes go over

1924
01:24:57,110 --> 01:24:55,080
to other side of midnight or Enterprise

1925
01:24:58,970 --> 01:24:57,120
missions for more

1926
01:25:01,490 --> 01:24:58,980
tell them you want to hear them on THC

1927
01:25:03,709 --> 01:25:01,500
again and maybe this can turn into a fun

1928
01:25:05,330 --> 01:25:03,719
mutually beneficial series of shows

1929
01:25:07,669 --> 01:25:05,340
rather than a one-off

1930
01:25:09,890 --> 01:25:07,679
we shall see if it's in the stars but

1931
01:25:12,290 --> 01:25:09,900
thanks to you for listening and taking

1932
01:25:14,270 --> 01:25:12,300
part in a personal milestone for me it's

1933
01:25:16,850 --> 01:25:14,280
been really a great month of shows

1934
01:25:18,590 --> 01:25:16,860
despite how crazy busy I've been I think

1935
01:25:20,270 --> 01:25:18,600
February has been

1936
01:25:23,570 --> 01:25:20,280
one of the best months in a while but

1937
01:25:26,149 --> 01:25:23,580
hey I've done my part your move ritual

1938
01:25:31,729 --> 01:25:26,159
Mission planners NASA deceivers and moon

1939
01:25:34,950 --> 01:25:31,739
ruins concealers your

1940
01:25:43,370 --> 01:25:40,250
[Music]

1941
01:25:45,830 --> 01:25:43,380
says I was looking up it showed me all

1942
01:25:51,360 --> 01:25:45,840
the hidden stuff and now I'm all

1943
01:26:16,260 --> 01:26:01,940
[Music]

1944
01:26:28,930 --> 01:26:16,270
[Applause]

1945
01:26:32,990 --> 01:26:28,940
[Music]

1946
01:26:35,590 --> 01:26:34,850
you to go

1947
01:26:39,830 --> 01:26:35,600
see the sausage

1948
01:26:39,840 --> 01:26:57,850
[Music]

1949
01:27:07,750 --> 01:27:01,540
that they breath

1950
01:27:38,149 --> 01:27:13,150
[Music]

1951
01:27:38,159 --> 01:27:49,100
get an extra

1952
01:27:49,110 --> 01:28:03,590
[Music]

1953
01:28:03,600 --> 01:28:07,500
we start you wondered

1954
01:28:16,040 --> 01:28:11,410
[Music]

1955
01:28:25,310 --> 01:28:16,050
[Applause]